[nmglug] Linux kernel 3.0

Rob Haag rhaag71 at gmail.com
Tue Jan 31 11:22:24 PST 2012


If I were in that situation, I would allow it to continue, then do another
apt-get update/upgrade combo and see what it says. If there were still held
packages, I would then attempt the dist-upgrade (again) and see if it
resolves the issues. You may have some held packages right now, until you
go through with the upgrade.

If that did not work, then I'd open synaptic and look at some of the held
packages and see if they were marked to be held (holding certain versions),
and then (if it were me) and that didn't show anything I'd probably give
the Curly (3 stooges) frustration moan at the computer, and attempt to
re-install some of the kept packages. They may even at that point need
re-configured.... But of course, this second paragraph is pure speculation,
I'd give it a shot and see what comes, it don't look like it's going to
hurt, you will end up with some upgraded packages including your kernal
package. Then lets see some output again, some googling could very well get
you past all this...

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 2:13 PM, BrianO'Keefe <okeefe at cybermesa.com> wrote:

> **
> So I still get packages to be kept back and that is what I don't get and
> apparently why Update Manager offers a partial upgrade:
>
>
> $ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
> [sudo] password for ubuntu:
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> Calculating upgrade... Done
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   friendly-recovery plymouth-label plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo
>   plymouth-theme-ubuntu-logo plymouth-theme-xubuntu-logo plymouth-x11
>   qgis-plugin-grass xchat
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   apg libgtk-sharp-beans-cil liblaunchpad-integration-common libmatecanvas
>   libmatecomponent libmatekeyring libnotify-bin libpython2.7 libqgis1.7.3
>   libtasn1-3-bin linux-headers-2.6.35-32 linux-headers-2.6.35-32-generic
>   linux-image-2.6.35-32-generic mate-common mate-conf mate-conf-common
>   mate-corba mate-menus mate-mime-data python-corba python-mate-desktop
>   python-mate-menu python2.7 python2.7-minimal
> The following packages have been kept back:
>   banshee banshee-extension-soundmenu gnome-control-center grub-common
> grub-pc
>   grub2 gtk2-engines-pixbuf launchpad-integration libboost-all-dev
>   libgail-common libgail-dev libgail18 libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin
> libgtk2.0-dev
>   libical0 liblaunchpad-integration1.0-cil libplymouth2 libvmime0 mintmenu
>   plymouth python-launchpad-integration python-software-properties
>   software-properties-gtk software-properties-kde tomboy usb-creator-common
>   usb-creator-gtk usb-creator-kde yelp
>
> The following packages will be upgraded:
>   liblaunchpad-integration1 linux-generic linux-headers-generic
>   linux-image-generic python-qgis python-qgis-common qgis qgis-common
>   qgis-plugin-grass-common qgis-providers qgis-providers-common
> xchat-common
> 12 upgraded, 24 newly installed, 8 to remove and 30 not upgraded.
> Need to get 74.7MB of archives.
> After this operation, 276MB of additional disk space will be used.
>
> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
> Abort.
>
>
> On 01/30/2012 11:24 PM, Rob Haag wrote:
>
> So...I just did an update (I prefer to do it by command line, it's just
> faster for me)...anyhow, this came up and I thought I'd share it since it
> is so pertinent to what we have been discussing here :) It's a copy/paste
> of what was in my terminal, not totally complete buy you will get the
> idea... (I happened to be in my apache2 directory, just ignore that at the
> prompt), but you will see that I used 'apt-get upgrade' and noticed that
> there were packages being kept back, so I said 'n' to upgrade, went back
> with a 'dist-upgrade' to satify everything...
>
>   rob at albert3 /etc/apache2/sites-available $ sudo apt-get upgrade
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree
>> Reading state information... Done
>> The following packages have been kept back:
>>   linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
>> The following packages will be upgraded:
>>   ifupdown libnux-1.0-0 libnux-1.0-common libunity-core-4.0-4 nux-tools
>> unity-services update-notifier-common
>> 7 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
>> Need to get 1,376 kB of archives.
>> After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
>> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
>> Abort.
>> rob at albert3 /etc/apache2/sites-available $ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree
>> Reading state information... Done
>> Calculating upgrade... Done
>> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>>   linux-headers-3.0.0-15 linux-headers-3.0.0-15-generic
>> linux-image-3.0.0-15-generic
>> The following packages will be upgraded:
>>   ifupdown libnux-1.0-0 libnux-1.0-common libunity-core-4.0-4
>> linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic nux-tools
>> unity-services update-notifier-common
>> 10 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
>> Need to get 50.4 MB of archives.
>> After this operation, 251 MB of additional disk space will be used.
>> Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
>> Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates/main
>> linux-image-3.0.0-15-generic amd64 3.0.0-15.26 [37.0 MB]
>> Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates/main ifupdown
>> amd64 0.7~alpha5.1ubuntu5.1 [47.7 kB]
>>
>>
>> Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates/main
>> libnux-1.0-0 amd64 1.16.0-0ubuntu1.1 [1,047 kB]
>>
>>
>> Get:4 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates/main
>> libnux-1.0-common all 1.16.0-0ubuntu1.1 [64.0 kB]
>>
>>
>> Get:5 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates/main
>> libunity-core-4.0-4 amd64 4.28.0-0ubuntu2 [168 kB]
>>
>>
>> Get:6 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates/main
>> unity-services amd64 4.28.0-0ubuntu2 [27.9 kB]
>>
>>
>> Get:7 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates/main
>> linux-generic amd64 3.0.0.15.17 [1,712 B]
>>
>>
>> Get:8 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates/main
>> linux-image-generic amd64 3.0.0.15.17 [2,454 B]
>>
>>
>> Get:9 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates/main
>> linux-headers-3.0.0-15 all 3.0.0-15.26 [11.2 MB]
>>
>>
>> Get:10 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates/main
>> linux-headers-3.0.0-15-generic amd64 3.0.0-15.26 [858 kB]
>>
>>
>> Get:11 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates/main
>> linux-headers-generic amd64 3.0.0.15.17 [2,446 B]
>>
>>
>> Get:12 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates/main nux-tools
>> amd64 1.16.0-0ubuntu1.1 [10.7 kB]
>>
>>
>> Get:13 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates/main
>> update-notifier-common all 0.117ubuntu3.2 [10.6 kB]
>>
>>
>> Fetched 50.4 MB in 29s (1,720 kB/s)
>>
>>
>>
>> Selecting previously deselected package linux-image-3.0.0-15-generic.
>> (Reading database ... 210127 files and directories currently installed.)
>> Unpacking linux-image-3.0.0-15-generic (from
>> .../linux-image-3.0.0-15-generic_3.0.0-15.26_amd64.deb) ...
>> Done.
>
> ... and went on to do the operation...
>
>  Rob
>
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Rob Haag <rhaag71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I vote you do the apt-get dist-upgrade ...it's not really a big deal,
>> having safety is good  though. I do it now and again just so I don't have
>> to see apt-get complain about held packages (when there are some).
>>
>>  Rob
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 7:38 PM, BrianO'Keefe <okeefe at cybermesa.com>wrote:
>>
>>>  Well that helps me feel better that the 3.0 is no great shakes and I
>>> would assume that it will all get upgraded eventually anyway.
>>> So is the consensus that I should do the apt-get dist-upgrade? Sounds
>>> like it but just making sure. I plan to clone my drive to a larger one
>>> anyway and then I can do the upgrade on this HD and risk nothing really.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/28/2012 09:02 PM, kevinlowrie wrote:
>>>
>>> The best article I found on 3.0 was in LinuxJournal last October/November for those with a subscription.
>>>
>>> A quick search on google to find non-subscription based articles came up with this one from PCMAG.com http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2388926,00.asp
>>>
>>> that sums it up best in the title for the impatient.
>>>
>>> For the even more impatient, 3.0 came out 15 years after the 2.0 version released and Linus felt it was time... don't expect anything snazzier than you would from 2.6.39 to 2.6.40... it's the same upgrade (no 2.6.40 to be released...)
>>>
>>> Another good summation of the versions here.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel
>>>
>>> And for the really curious. Here is the 7/21/2011 post from Linus releasing it with his words.https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/7/21/455
>>>
>>>
>>> cheers and happy haxin9!
>>> kevinlowriekevinlowrie at gmail.com
>>>
>>> The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the prohibition law...
>>> A.Einstein
>>>
>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 11:52 , Mark Galassi wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>    BrianO'Keefe> Hi all, I'm finding lots of "how-tos" on the web to
>>>    BrianO'Keefe> install the 3.0 kernel. Is this advisable as i am
>>>    BrianO'Keefe> running Ubuntu 10.10?
>>>
>>> In general I would stick to the kernel updates from your distribution
>>> unless you are doing very special things.
>>>
>>> Note that it might be a bad idea to run 10.10 for so long: 10.10 is not
>>> a "long term support" release, so it's probably best to keep it current.
>>>
>>> See this page for a description of the LTS releases and expiration in
>>> general.
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
>>>
>>> Vis-a-vis your updates, sometimes an explicit deliberate install of one
>>> or two might then make apt-get install them all:
>>>
>>> sudo apt-get update
>>> sudo apt-get -u install linux-image-generic
>>>
>>> and see if that changes things.
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