[nmglug] No google search

Max Bond max.o.bond at gmail.com
Sun May 14 12:21:20 PDT 2017


Could you bring it to the next session? I have a couple ideas, but they're
not very friendly to remote debugging.

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 1:17 PM, Brian OKeefe <okeefe at cybermesa.com> wrote:

> Also no google earth. App loads but can't search but can zoom in, rotate,
> etc.
> Thanks for helping!
>
>
> On 05/13/2017 07:16 PM, Max Bond wrote:
>
> That is very strange. Does anyone have a hypothesis?
>
> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Brian OKeefe <okeefe at cybermesa.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Firefox 53.0.2, tried Chrome, Chromium, Pale Moon, all latest from updates
>>
>> On 05/13/2017 05:02 PM, Max Bond wrote:
>>
>> What I can conclude for the information that was in the email is that you
>> are able to reach https://google.com from the terminal. Since you said
>> you weren't able to do this from the browser, that suggests you were
>> correct & that the issue is with your browser.
>>
>> Could you tell us precisely which browser you're using & what version?
>> You mentioned using Firefox; have you tried from Chromium?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Max
>>
>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 4:59 PM, Max Bond <max.o.bond at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Brian,
>>>
>>> Pardon me for not explaining better, but those commands created a series
>>> of .txt files (tr-dns.txt, tr-direct.txt, etc) which have the relevant
>>> information inside them.
>>>
>>> Could you attach those files? The names are at the end of every line,
>>> after the ">".
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 4:56 PM, Brian OKeefe <okeefe at cybermesa.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> thanks Max,
>>>>
>>>> Here's the terminal output:
>>>>
>>>> root at ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# traceroute google.com > tr-dns.txt
>>>> root at ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# traceroute 172.217.11.238 >
>>>> tr-direct.txt
>>>> root at ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# dig any ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe
>>>> .net > nxdomain-default.txt
>>>> root at ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# dig @8.8.8.8 any
>>>> ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net > nxdomain-google.txt
>>>> root at ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu#
>>>> root at ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu#
>>>> root at ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# dig @8.8.8.8 any
>>>> ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net > nxdomain-google.txt
>>>> root at ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# dig any google.com > dns-default.txt
>>>> root at ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# dig @8.8.8.8 any google.com >
>>>> dns-google.txt
>>>> root at ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# curl -IX HEAD google.com >
>>>> http-dns.txt
>>>>   % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time
>>>> Current
>>>>                                  Dload  Upload   Total   Spent
>>>> Left  Speed
>>>>   0   219    0     0    0     0      0      0 --:--:-- --:--:--
>>>> --:--:--     0
>>>> root at ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# curl -IX HEAD -H "Host: google.com"
>>>> 172.217.11.238 > http-direct.txt
>>>>   % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time
>>>> Current
>>>>                                  Dload  Upload   Total   Spent
>>>> Left  Speed
>>>>   0   219    0     0    0     0      0      0 --:--:-- --:--:--
>>>> --:--:--     0
>>>> root at ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# (echo -en "GET / HTTP/1.1\r\nHost:
>>>> google.com\r\n\r\n"; sleep 5;) | openssl s_client -connect
>>>> 172.217.11.238:443 > https-direct.txt
>>>> depth=3 C = US, O = Equifax, OU = Equifax Secure Certificate Authority
>>>> verify return:1
>>>> depth=2 C = US, O = GeoTrust Inc., CN = GeoTrust Global CA
>>>> verify return:1
>>>> depth=1 C = US, O = Google Inc, CN = Google Internet Authority G2
>>>> verify return:1
>>>> depth=0 C = US, ST = California, L = Mountain View, O = Google Inc, CN
>>>> = *.google.com
>>>> verify return:1
>>>> DONE
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 05/13/2017 02:09 PM, Max Bond wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for the chat-style messages, but as a last note, I know you tried
>>>> changing your DNS settings, those last tests are meant to check for your
>>>> ISP rewriting DNS responses. It's been known to happen.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:07 PM, Max Bond <max.o.bond at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> (Obviously NXDomain hijacking wouldn't cause the problems you're
>>>>> experiencing, that's more meant to gauge CyberMesa's willingness to tamper
>>>>> with your traffic.)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Max Bond <max.o.bond at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Could you run a couple of commands to test for bad behavior by your
>>>>>> ISP?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # Middleware boxes? Won't reveal clever ones.
>>>>>> traceroute google.com > tr-dns.txt
>>>>>> traceroute 172.217.11.238 > tr-direct.txt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # NXDomain hijacking?
>>>>>> dig any ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net > nxdomain-default.txt
>>>>>> dig @8.8.8.8 any ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net >
>>>>>> nxdomain-google.txt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # DNS MITM?
>>>>>> dig any google.com > dns-default.txt
>>>>>> dig @8.8.8.8 any google.com > dns-google.txt
>>>>>> curl -IX HEAD google.com > http-dns.txt
>>>>>> curl -IX HEAD -H "Host: google.com" 172.217.11.238 > http-direct.txt
>>>>>> (echo -en "GET / HTTP/1.1\r\nHost: google.com\r\n\r\n"; sleep 5;) |
>>>>>> openssl s_client -connect 172.217.11.238:443 > https-direct.txt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Tim Embler <
>>>>>> timlists at tristarcreations.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> yeah I would have thought the restart would have done it. like you
>>>>>>> even when the browser can't connect, pinging it still works fine for me too
>>>>>>> which is why I ruled out dns. I have a feeling you tried this but have you
>>>>>>> tried clearing all of your google.com cookies/cache? That also
>>>>>>> temporary fixed the issue for me but I have log back into anything google
>>>>>>> which makes that a pain.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/13/17 1:00 PM, Brian OKeefe wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I found many people having this experience on the forums but the
>>>>>>> efforts that I tried which were solutions for them didn't help me. Like I
>>>>>>> wrote, no browser that is not in a VM connects to google.com. My
>>>>>>> ISP is Cybermesa and they tried to help with DNS settings but that's all
>>>>>>> fine and was never an issue before anyway. I've tried disabling all add-ons
>>>>>>> for Firefox and that doesn't make a difference. A restart, which would kill
>>>>>>> all instances of all apps doesn't help.
>>>>>>> There are many "fixes" out there. Just none of them fix my problem,
>>>>>>> which is essentially identical to what other users, like you, experienced.
>>>>>>> they solved the issue. I cannot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 05/13/2017 12:50 PM, Tim Embler wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While this issue is sad I am still so happy to see someone else
>>>>>>> having this issue and it is not just me. Like you I have searched
>>>>>>> everywhere and have not been able to find anyone else having this issue.
>>>>>>> Are you using Chrome/Chromium? I was using Chromium at first but when the
>>>>>>> issue started I switched to Chrome which did also have the same problem. I
>>>>>>> have not tried using Firefox for an extended amount of time to see if that
>>>>>>> also has this. If I kill all instances of Chrome/Chromium it will connect
>>>>>>> to google again but after a few hours the issue comes back where it will
>>>>>>> not search/connect to google.com. You do have to make sure you kill
>>>>>>> all instances of chrome/chromium for that temporary fix to work. On a
>>>>>>> permanent fix I have no idea at this point.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/13/17 12:40 PM, Brian OKeefe wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all. Sorry to have missed meetings and not been in contact so
>>>>>>> it's a bit awkward asking for help. But I will!
>>>>>>> I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 on an acer laptop. Until a few weeks ago
>>>>>>> all things google worked fine and it was my primary search engine. It
>>>>>>> started slowing down trying to connect to google.com, www.google.com,
>>>>>>> http://www.google....you get the idea. Eventually, about 2 weeks
>>>>>>> ago it just stopped connecting at all. So:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I checked every forum and help page I could find. I changed DNS
>>>>>>> servers to open DNS, googleDNS, changed all configuration files to reflect
>>>>>>> those changes, many command line instructions and on and on. None of the
>>>>>>> Solved marked issues solved my problem even though the symptoms were the
>>>>>>> same.
>>>>>>> I run 2 VMs, Ubuntu 16.10 and FreeBSD. Both of those machines can
>>>>>>> use google as normal. that seems weird to me.
>>>>>>> I can load something like groups.google.com and then chose apps
>>>>>>> like gmail, drive, photos and several others but not calendar or maps
>>>>>>> (which is what I really want). I can use all those apps on the VMs though.
>>>>>>> In 16.04 no browser loads google. com
>>>>>>> I can ping google.com with no packet loss.
>>>>>>> I'm stumped.
>>>>>>> Help?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brian
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