[nmglug] No google search

Andres Paglayan andres at paglayan.com
Tue May 16 19:19:42 PDT 2017


officially weird then


On 05/16/2017 08:22 AM, Brian OKeefe wrote:
> Hi Andres and all,
> Here at Iconik connected to the network so all I have is the same result.
>
> On 05/15/2017 01:33 PM, Andres Paglayan wrote:
>>
>> what happens if you create another user account in the same machine 
>> and try from there?
>>
>> have you tried connecting form another network, like wifi from a coffee?
>>
> No difference
>>
>> have you installed any recent extension?
>>
>> did you create any nftables / iptables rules?
>>
>> for diagnosis only, what happens if you include one of google's ips 
>> on the hosts file?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 05/14/2017 09:00 PM, Brian OKeefe wrote:
>>> Another bit of info but how useful? I have DraftLogic distance 
>>> calculator I use in firefox. It uses google maps and layers on that. 
>>> Google maps load for that site but not as maps.google.com. Here's  
>>> DraftLogic:https://www.daftlogic.com/projects-advanced-google-maps-distance-calculator.htm.
>>> Anybody know other sites that use google maps I could try?
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> On 05/14/2017 01:21 PM, Max Bond wrote:
>>>> Could you bring it to the next session? I have a couple ideas, but 
>>>> they're not very friendly to remote debugging.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 1:17 PM, Brian OKeefe <okeefe at cybermesa.com 
>>>> <mailto:okeefe at cybermesa.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Also no google earth. App loads but can't search but can zoom
>>>>     in, rotate, etc.
>>>>     Thanks for helping!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 05/13/2017 07:16 PM, Max Bond wrote:
>>>>>     That is very strange. Does anyone have a hypothesis?
>>>>>
>>>>>     On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Brian OKeefe
>>>>>     <okeefe at cybermesa.com <mailto:okeefe at cybermesa.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>         Firefox 53.0.2, tried Chrome, Chromium, Pale Moon, all
>>>>>         latest from updates
>>>>>
>>>>>         On 05/13/2017 05:02 PM, Max Bond wrote:
>>>>>>         What I can conclude for the information that was in the
>>>>>>         email is that you are able to reach https://google.com
>>>>>>         from the terminal. Since you said you weren't able to do
>>>>>>         this from the browser, that suggests you were correct &
>>>>>>         that the issue is with your browser.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Could you tell us precisely which browser you're using &
>>>>>>         what version? You mentioned using Firefox; have you tried
>>>>>>         from Chromium?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Thanks,
>>>>>>         Max
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 4:59 PM, Max Bond
>>>>>>         <max.o.bond at gmail.com <mailto:max.o.bond at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Hey Brian,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Pardon me for not explaining better, but those
>>>>>>             commands created a series of .txt files (tr-dns.txt,
>>>>>>             tr-direct.txt, etc) which have the relevant
>>>>>>             information inside them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Could you attach those files? The names are at the
>>>>>>             end of every line, after the ">".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 4:56 PM, Brian OKeefe
>>>>>>             <okeefe at cybermesa.com <mailto:okeefe at cybermesa.com>>
>>>>>>             wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 thanks Max,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 Here's the terminal output:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 root at ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# traceroute
>>>>>>                 google.com <http://google.com> > tr-dns.txt
>>>>>>                 root at ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# traceroute
>>>>>>                 172.217.11.238 > tr-direct.txt
>>>>>>                 root at ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# dig any
>>>>>>                 ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net
>>>>>>                 <http://ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net> >
>>>>>>                 nxdomain-default.txt
>>>>>>                 root at ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# dig @8.8.8.8
>>>>>>                 <http://8.8.8.8> any
>>>>>>                 ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net
>>>>>>                 <http://ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net> >
>>>>>>                 nxdomain-google.txt
>>>>>>                 root at ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu#
>>>>>>                 root at ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu#
>>>>>>                 root at ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# dig @8.8.8.8
>>>>>>                 <http://8.8.8.8> any
>>>>>>                 ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net
>>>>>>                 <http://ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net> >
>>>>>>                 nxdomain-google.txt
>>>>>>                 root at ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# dig any
>>>>>>                 google.com <http://google.com> > dns-default.txt
>>>>>>                 root at ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# dig @8.8.8.8
>>>>>>                 <http://8.8.8.8> any google.com
>>>>>>                 <http://google.com> > dns-google.txt
>>>>>>                 root at ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# curl -IX HEAD
>>>>>>                 google.com <http://google.com> > http-dns.txt
>>>>>>                   % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed
>>>>>>                 Time Time     Time Current
>>>>>>                    Dload  Upload   Total   Spent Left  Speed
>>>>>>                   0   219 0     0 0     0 0      0 --:--:--
>>>>>>                 --:--:-- --:--:--     0
>>>>>>                 root at ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# curl -IX HEAD -H
>>>>>>                 "Host: google.com <http://google.com>"
>>>>>>                 172.217.11.238 > http-direct.txt
>>>>>>                   % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed
>>>>>>                 Time Time     Time Current
>>>>>>                    Dload  Upload   Total   Spent Left  Speed
>>>>>>                   0   219 0     0 0     0 0      0 --:--:--
>>>>>>                 --:--:-- --:--:--     0
>>>>>>                 root at ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# (echo -en "GET /
>>>>>>                 HTTP/1.1\r\nHost: google.com
>>>>>>                 <http://google.com>\r\n\r\n"; sleep 5;) | openssl
>>>>>>                 s_client -connect 172.217.11.238:443
>>>>>>                 <http://172.217.11.238:443> > https-direct.txt
>>>>>>                 depth=3 C = US, O = Equifax, OU = Equifax Secure
>>>>>>                 Certificate Authority
>>>>>>                 verify return:1
>>>>>>                 depth=2 C = US, O = GeoTrust Inc., CN = GeoTrust
>>>>>>                 Global CA
>>>>>>                 verify return:1
>>>>>>                 depth=1 C = US, O = Google Inc, CN = Google
>>>>>>                 Internet Authority G2
>>>>>>                 verify return:1
>>>>>>                 depth=0 C = US, ST = California, L = Mountain
>>>>>>                 View, O = Google Inc, CN = *.google.com
>>>>>>                 <http://google.com>
>>>>>>                 verify return:1
>>>>>>                 DONE
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 On 05/13/2017 02:09 PM, Max Bond wrote:
>>>>>>>                 Sorry for the chat-style messages, but as a last
>>>>>>>                 note, I know you tried changing your DNS
>>>>>>>                 settings, those last tests are meant to check
>>>>>>>                 for your ISP rewriting DNS responses. It's been
>>>>>>>                 known to happen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                 On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:07 PM, Max Bond
>>>>>>>                 <max.o.bond at gmail.com
>>>>>>>                 <mailto:max.o.bond at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     (Obviously NXDomain hijacking wouldn't cause
>>>>>>>                     the problems you're experiencing, that's
>>>>>>>                     more meant to gauge CyberMesa's willingness
>>>>>>>                     to tamper with your traffic.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Max Bond
>>>>>>>                     <max.o.bond at gmail.com
>>>>>>>                     <mailto:max.o.bond at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         Could you run a couple of commands to
>>>>>>>                         test for bad behavior by your ISP?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         # Middleware boxes? Won't reveal clever
>>>>>>>                         ones.
>>>>>>>                         traceroute google.com
>>>>>>>                         <http://google.com> > tr-dns.txt
>>>>>>>                         traceroute 172.217.11.238 > tr-direct.txt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         # NXDomain hijacking?
>>>>>>>                         dig any
>>>>>>>                         ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net
>>>>>>>                         <http://ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net>
>>>>>>>                         > nxdomain-default.txt
>>>>>>>                         dig @8.8.8.8 <http://8.8.8.8> any
>>>>>>>                         ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net
>>>>>>>                         <http://ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net>
>>>>>>>                         > nxdomain-google.txt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         # DNS MITM?
>>>>>>>                         dig any google.com <http://google.com> >
>>>>>>>                         dns-default.txt
>>>>>>>                         dig @8.8.8.8 <http://8.8.8.8> any
>>>>>>>                         google.com <http://google.com> >
>>>>>>>                         dns-google.txt
>>>>>>>                         curl -IX HEAD google.com
>>>>>>>                         <http://google.com> > http-dns.txt
>>>>>>>                         curl -IX HEAD -H "Host: google.com
>>>>>>>                         <http://google.com>" 172.217.11.238 >
>>>>>>>                         http-direct.txt
>>>>>>>                         (echo -en "GET / HTTP/1.1\r\nHost:
>>>>>>>                         google.com <http://google.com>\r\n\r\n";
>>>>>>>                         sleep 5;) | openssl s_client -connect
>>>>>>>                         172.217.11.238:443
>>>>>>>                         <http://172.217.11.238:443> >
>>>>>>>                         https-direct.txt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Tim
>>>>>>>                         Embler <timlists at tristarcreations.com
>>>>>>>                         <mailto:timlists at tristarcreations.com>>
>>>>>>>                         wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                             yeah I would have thought the
>>>>>>>                             restart would have done it. like you
>>>>>>>                             even when the browser can't connect,
>>>>>>>                             pinging it still works fine for me
>>>>>>>                             too which is why I ruled out dns. I
>>>>>>>                             have a feeling you tried this but
>>>>>>>                             have you tried clearing all of your
>>>>>>>                             google.com <http://google.com>
>>>>>>>                             cookies/cache? That also temporary
>>>>>>>                             fixed the issue for me but I have
>>>>>>>                             log back into anything google which
>>>>>>>                             makes that a pain.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                             On 5/13/17 1:00 PM, Brian OKeefe wrote:
>>>>>>>>                             I found many people having this
>>>>>>>>                             experience on the forums but the
>>>>>>>>                             efforts that I tried which were
>>>>>>>>                             solutions for them didn't help me.
>>>>>>>>                             Like I wrote, no browser that is
>>>>>>>>                             not in a VM connects to google.com
>>>>>>>>                             <http://google.com>. My ISP is
>>>>>>>>                             Cybermesa and they tried to help
>>>>>>>>                             with DNS settings but that's all
>>>>>>>>                             fine and was never an issue before
>>>>>>>>                             anyway. I've tried disabling all
>>>>>>>>                             add-ons for Firefox and that
>>>>>>>>                             doesn't make a difference. A
>>>>>>>>                             restart, which would kill all
>>>>>>>>                             instances of all apps doesn't help.
>>>>>>>>                             There are many "fixes" out there.
>>>>>>>>                             Just none of them fix my problem,
>>>>>>>>                             which is essentially identical to
>>>>>>>>                             what other users, like you,
>>>>>>>>                             experienced. they solved the issue.
>>>>>>>>                             I cannot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                             On 05/13/2017 12:50 PM, Tim Embler
>>>>>>>>                             wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                             While this issue is sad I am still
>>>>>>>>>                             so happy to see someone else
>>>>>>>>>                             having this issue and it is not
>>>>>>>>>                             just me. Like you I have searched
>>>>>>>>>                             everywhere and have not been able
>>>>>>>>>                             to find anyone else having this
>>>>>>>>>                             issue. Are you using
>>>>>>>>>                             Chrome/Chromium? I was using
>>>>>>>>>                             Chromium at first but when the
>>>>>>>>>                             issue started I switched to Chrome
>>>>>>>>>                             which did also have the same
>>>>>>>>>                             problem. I have not tried using
>>>>>>>>>                             Firefox for an extended amount of
>>>>>>>>>                             time to see if that also has this.
>>>>>>>>>                             If I kill all instances of
>>>>>>>>>                             Chrome/Chromium it will connect to
>>>>>>>>>                             google again but after a few hours
>>>>>>>>>                             the issue comes back where it will
>>>>>>>>>                             not search/connect to google.com
>>>>>>>>>                             <http://google.com>. You do have
>>>>>>>>>                             to make sure you kill all
>>>>>>>>>                             instances of chrome/chromium for
>>>>>>>>>                             that temporary fix to work. On a
>>>>>>>>>                             permanent fix I have no idea at
>>>>>>>>>                             this point.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                             On 5/13/17 12:40 PM, Brian OKeefe
>>>>>>>>>                             wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>                             Hi all. Sorry to have missed
>>>>>>>>>>                             meetings and not been in contact
>>>>>>>>>>                             so it's a bit awkward asking for
>>>>>>>>>>                             help. But I will!
>>>>>>>>>>                             I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 on an
>>>>>>>>>>                             acer laptop. Until a few weeks
>>>>>>>>>>                             ago all things google worked fine
>>>>>>>>>>                             and it was my primary search
>>>>>>>>>>                             engine. It started slowing down
>>>>>>>>>>                             trying to connect to google.com
>>>>>>>>>>                             <http://google.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>                             www.google.com
>>>>>>>>>>                             <http://www.google.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>                             http://www.google....you get the
>>>>>>>>>>                             idea. Eventually, about 2 weeks
>>>>>>>>>>                             ago it just stopped connecting at
>>>>>>>>>>                             all. So:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                             I checked every forum and help
>>>>>>>>>>                             page I could find. I changed DNS
>>>>>>>>>>                             servers to open DNS, googleDNS,
>>>>>>>>>>                             changed all configuration files
>>>>>>>>>>                             to reflect those changes, many
>>>>>>>>>>                             command line instructions and on
>>>>>>>>>>                             and on. None of the Solved marked
>>>>>>>>>>                             issues solved my problem even
>>>>>>>>>>                             though the symptoms were the same.
>>>>>>>>>>                             I run 2 VMs, Ubuntu 16.10 and
>>>>>>>>>>                             FreeBSD. Both of those machines
>>>>>>>>>>                             can use google as normal. that
>>>>>>>>>>                             seems weird to me.
>>>>>>>>>>                             I can load something like
>>>>>>>>>>                             groups.google.com
>>>>>>>>>>                             <http://groups.google.com> and
>>>>>>>>>>                             then chose apps like gmail,
>>>>>>>>>>                             drive, photos and several others
>>>>>>>>>>                             but not calendar or maps (which
>>>>>>>>>>                             is what I really want). I can use
>>>>>>>>>>                             all those apps on the VMs though.
>>>>>>>>>>                             In 16.04 no browser loads google. com
>>>>>>>>>>                             I can ping google.com
>>>>>>>>>>                             <http://google.com> with no
>>>>>>>>>>                             packet loss.
>>>>>>>>>>                             I'm stumped.
>>>>>>>>>>                             Help?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                             Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                             Brian
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