[nmglug] Satellite imagery

Sat Nov 10 21:28:53 PST 2018

Not sure if the track you were on was served by Amtrak but Sites like this
can be mined for info.

https://downdetector.com/status/amtrak/archive

On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 12:26 AM Jonathan Romero <jonnyro at jonnyro.com>
wrote:

> It also occurred to me that other train lines probably use the same track.
> Maybe see if Amtrak schedules were affected during that time?
>
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 12:24 AM Jonathan Romero <jonnyro at jonnyro.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I don’t think the resolution of your satellite photos has anything to do
>> with your processor.  The earth is huge and unless satellites are
>> specifically tasked to do otherwise they take very low resolution images.
>>
>> Plus. Free offerings are likely to be lower resolution.
>>
>> Maybe you could find some historical data on taxes collected for
>> delivered coal during that time period and see if there was any
>> fluctuations?  I mean if you really disrupted coal deliveries something
>> should have been affected downstream.
>>
>> Also maybe see if there are any web forums for train conductors etc.
>> maybe find a retired one that would point you in the right direction for
>> finding the train schedule info you need.
>>
>> Seems like retirees love to talk. They are probably all on Facebook
>> anyway
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 8:29 PM Brian O'Keefe <okeefe at cybermesa.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> And here's the image I'm trying to download and work with. Maybe a more
>>> powerful processor would help? Doubt that tho.
>>> On 11/10/18 5:25 PM, Jonathan Romero wrote:
>>>
>>> You could also ask a company Called Vricon if they have holdings for
>>> that date.
>>>
>>> Again the right timeline makes it unlikely but you might as well ask.
>>>
>>> Check with planet.com. They have a pretty big fleet up there and are
>>> capturing at a pretty high frequency. Again. Probably expensive but perhaps
>>> worth it?
>>>
>>> Maybe bnsf doesn’t want to talk but delays at bnsf should have affected
>>> other trains using that line.
>>>
>>> Traffic cams near train crossings?
>>>
>>> Google traffic data showing traffic delays indicative of altered train
>>> flow?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 7:16 PM Brian O'Keefe <okeefe at cybermesa.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There are many, many pix and video evidence collected by the legal
>>>> eagles that helped us up there but nothing that shows the tracks beyond
>>>> several hundred yards. I have looked at images from GoogleEarth and there
>>>> are two sidings, one east and one west, of the conflict area. The one to
>>>> the west is 6 miles away and the one to the east is 3. So I'm looking for
>>>> images of those with trains, on that day at that time. A tough one.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure why the smaller sized downloads are grayscale but they are
>>>> unreadable since they are so indistinct. Weird there. There may be more pix
>>>> from the state from that day as they provided some for another case, same
>>>> as mine. The trains they show are in the Mandan yard, pointing the wrong
>>>> direct (according to testimony) and are empty coal cars while state's
>>>> testimony stated they were two trains heading east loaded with coal. all I
>>>> need is a pic of the next mile or two to the west where the "altercation"
>>>> happened. No trains, no case.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> On 11/10/18 3:33 PM, Jonathan Romero wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Protesting good practices for the modern age will probably involve
>>>> launching a drone to ensure good record keeping.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe fixed wing electric plus solar from the EFF?
>>>>
>>>> Or Good Samaritan private pilots?
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 5:26 PM Jonathan Romero <jonnyro at jonnyro.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Maybe have your lawyer request the info from BNSF.
>>>>>
>>>>> They probably know exactly where those trains were.
>>>>>
>>>>> I’d also see if flickr or any other image sharing site has images on
>>>>> that date or general location.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 5:23 PM Arlo Barnes <arlo.barnes at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, a time so specific will be hard to find.
>>>>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit shows various freely-licensed
>>>>>> imagery from that area, and the most recent one from Bing aerial there is
>>>>>> from October 14th, 2016. Is there a bit of fuzz allowable on the time/date?
>>>>>> —Arlo James Barnes
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