From leroy at choosetherightside.com Tue Dec 1 07:07:15 2020 From: leroy at choosetherightside.com (LeRoy Diener) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 08:07:15 -0700 Subject: [nmglug] Learning about options for installing programs, help please Message-ID: Hi NMGLUG folks, I would like some explanations about the advantages and disadvantages of different approaches to installing programs on debian. I've heard various ideas, and I've tried different protocols for installing. I'd like now to have a better comprehension about this topic. In general, I'm finding that the CLI works best, but there are still many options. For example, one way to install a program is from apt. What does that mean? Is it related to typing in the CLI something like sudo apt install ... ? Is it related to the etc/apt folder? What are the pros/cons? Another way to install is into home bin. What does that mean? Is it related to the home/bin folder? Where are the programs coming from if installed using apt or not from apt. How safe are programs from outside the repository? Which places are safer than others? Does it make a difference which folder on my hard drive where the programs are installed to? The above questions might be great questions, or they may not be so good. I hope that it is clear the type of info and the type of comprehension I'm looking for. I've tried an online search, but what I've found so far is a very basic instruction on which commands to use. If there is a good written resource at the level that I'm learning, that would be great. LeRoy -- I am the Love of God, no matter what. LeRoy Diener 213-LEROYIZ 213-537-6949 www.leroydiener.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From community at abqlug.com Tue Dec 1 08:10:40 2020 From: community at abqlug.com (ABQLUG) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2020 09:10:40 -0700 Subject: [nmglug] Learning about options for installing programs, help please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <36501740d374fdcb2e78c494cdcf2ea7@mail.swcp.com> Hey LeRoy, I'm sure somebody will be able to give a really good response before I can give a response. If not, I'm welcome to explain what options you have to install software these days on Linux (Debian in your case). It's kinda complicated, so I won't have the proper time to write something out just yet. I'll write another email about the details on how to join, and will send that shortly. ~ Jared On Dec 1 2020 8:07 AM, LeRoy Diener wrote: > Hi NMGLUG folks, > > I would like some explanations about the advantages and disadvantages > of different approaches to installing programs on debian. > I've heard various ideas, and I've tried different protocols for > installing. > I'd like now to have a better comprehension about this topic. > In general, I'm finding that the CLI works best, but there are still > many options. > > For example, one way to install a program is from apt. > What does that mean? Is it related to typing in the CLI something > like sudo apt install ... ? Is it related to the etc/apt folder? What > are the pros/cons? > Another way to install is into home bin. > What does that mean? Is it related to the home/bin folder? > > Where are the programs coming from if installed using apt or not from > apt. > How safe are programs from outside the repository? Which places are > safer than others? > Does it make a difference which folder on my hard drive where the > programs are installed to? > > The above questions might be great questions, or they may not be so > good. I hope that it is clear the type of info and the type of > comprehension I'm looking for. I've tried an online search, but what > I've found so far is a very basic instruction on which commands to > use. If there is a good written resource at the level that I'm > learning, that would be great. > > LeRoy > > -- > I am the Love of God, no matter what. > LeRoy Diener > 213-LEROYIZ > 213-537-6949 > www.leroydiener.com/ [1] > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://www.leroydiener.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > nmglug mailing list > nmglug at lists.nmglug.org > http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org From community at abqlug.com Tue Dec 1 08:48:44 2020 From: community at abqlug.com (ABQLUG) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2020 09:48:44 -0700 Subject: [nmglug] [ABQLUG] Monthly meetup is scheduled for today at 6PM (virtually) Message-ID: Fellow NMGLUGers, The monthly Albuquerque Linux User Group (virtual) meetup is on schedule today, December 1st 2020 at 6:00 pm. Please bring _any_ questions you might have about using Linux, I didn't have enough time to schedule a topic to discuss. Though I'm looking for input on switching from the first Tuesday of the month to a Saturday. Email me directly for your input, please! community at abqlug.com Here is the link you can use to join: https://live.abqlug.com/DecemberMeetup If you're going to use a desktop/laptop, all you should need is a modern web browser to join the online meeting. If you are going to use a smartphone, you will want to install the Jitsi-meet app, and then set the Jitsi-meet server to live.abqlug.com. If you would like more information on how to attend the meetup, please visit: https://www.abqlug.com/attendee/ If you're having issues using a microphone or camera, you might have to make sure that WebRTC is enabled in your browser if you have "locked down" your browser. If WebRTC is working, you should be able to complete a Microphone and Camera test here: https://test.webrtc.org/ The meetup will likely end around 8pm or before. Sorry for the short notice! ~ Jared From akkana at shallowsky.com Tue Dec 1 10:00:56 2020 From: akkana at shallowsky.com (Akkana Peck) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 11:00:56 -0700 Subject: [nmglug] Learning about options for installing programs, help please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20201201180056.GA2198@shallowsky.com> LeRoy Diener writes: > For example, one way to install a program is from apt. > What does that mean? Is it related to typing in the CLI something like sudo > apt install ... ? Is it related to the etc/apt folder? What are the apt is a program, used to install software on Debian-derived systems. (You can verify that by typing which apt; which will show that apt is /usr/bin/apt). You can run it to install packages (apt install), to update the system (apt update && apt upgrade or dist-upgrade), and for various other functions. apt originally stands for "Advanced Package Tool", and it's also used as a general name for the way Debian packages software, and all the programs that support it (in addition to apt, there are lots of helpers like apt-cache, aptitude, apt-file, dpkg, synaptic and on and on). You can read more about the general use on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APT_(software) Some of those programs build in extra stuff: e.g. aptitude has nicer searching than apt-cache and different dependency management from /usr/bin/apt, while synaptic has a GUI for people who aren't comfortable running in the command line. But even if you use some of these tools, e.g. Ubuntu's package manager GUI, you're still "using apt" underneath. > pros/cons? If I'm on a Debian system, I always install software using apt unless there's a good reason not to. That way, when I update my system, I automatically get updates for every apt-installed package. Some reasons that would lead me to install a program some other way than apt: - not available in apt, either because it's proprietary (e.g. Zoom) or because nobody has packaged it - the version in the distro I'm running is too old, and I need features or bugfixes that come with a more recent version - I plan to contribute to the package, so I need the cutting edge version built from source > Another way to install is into home bin. > What does that mean? Is it related to the home/bin folder? You can, optionally, create a directory named "bin" inside your home directory -- so you could refer to it as ~/bin, $HOME/bin, or /home/your-user-name/bin -- and add it to your PATH, the environment variable that controls where the system looks for executable programs. In my ~/bin, I mostly put programs I wrote myself, and a few scripts I downloaded from a trusted source. It isn't somewhere I typically install downloaded software packages. > Where are the programs coming from if installed using apt or not from apt. When you install using apt, the programs are almost always coming from your Linux distro's repositories for the version of the distro you're running (e.g. Ubuntu 20.04, Debian Wheezy). You can choose to add additional repositories outside the distro, but that's fairly unusual and something you have to do deliberately. For instance, some people make PPAs ("Personal Package Archive") for Ubuntu to distribute newer versions of certain programs than the ones Debian distributes. > How safe are programs from outside the repository? Which places are safer > than others? Programs from outside the repository are only as safe as the place you're getting them. For instance, if I download firefox from mozilla.org, I figure that's pretty safe; if mozilla.org got compromised it would be all over the news and I'd hear about it. But if someone on an IRC channel says "Hey, there's a great program you can download from harrysprograms.com", that's obviously not safe. You have to use your own judgement and common sense when downloading out-of-distro packages. Some sources can be misleading. For instance, Python programs can be installed using pip, perl programs using cpan, ruby programs using gems; you would think these should be safe because they're coming from the organization behind Python or Perl or Ruby, but they're not really, because anyone can upload programs to those systems. That's also true of the AUR system in Arch Linux. So again, you have to use common sense: is it a program a lot of people seem to use and trust? Has it been around for a long time? > Does it make a difference which folder on my hard drive where the programs > are installed to? No. If you're running it, you're running it, regardless of where it lives on your file system. ...Akkana From community at abqlug.com Tue Dec 1 17:04:03 2020 From: community at abqlug.com (ABQLUG) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2020 18:04:03 -0700 Subject: [nmglug] [ABQLUG] This months virtual meetup is now live! Message-ID: <97ba9584bf295c618f866d1f015120d6@mail.swcp.com> The monthly virtual meetup room is now open to join. You may join here: https://live.abqlug.com/DecemberMeetup If you have not joined before, you might need to read this first: https://www.abqlug.com/attendee/ If you are bored, why not join? We can try to answer any of your Linux questions! ~ Jared From ted.pome at gmail.com Thu Dec 3 12:57:24 2020 From: ted.pome at gmail.com (Ted Pomeroy) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 13:57:24 -0700 Subject: [nmglug] Learning about options for installing programs, help please In-Reply-To: <20201201180056.GA2198@shallowsky.com> References: <20201201180056.GA2198@shallowsky.com> Message-ID: NMGLUGers, I use both 'apt' on cli and Synaptic(GUI) for installing packages. If I know the package name and how it fits into my system the cli is quicker and direct. I have usually reviewed the repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list; and have a sense of the differences between them. However, if I am in doubt or do not know the package name, but do know what area I need to have function more I use Synaptic and rely on its Search function and the brief descriptions of each package. A recent instance of this was a search for Libreoffice clipart that is free and compatible with my sources.list. While there is a vast amount of free and non-free clipart in the wider world, in Synaptic I could count on not getting caught up in ambiguous copyright or hidden hooks or incompatibilities. It is a trivial example I am sure, but gives an example of how the GUI aids me when I am short on other knowledge. I hope to see a few of us tonight at our Virtual meeting. Thank you, Ted P. On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 11:01 AM Akkana Peck wrote: > LeRoy Diener writes: > > For example, one way to install a program is from apt. > > What does that mean? Is it related to typing in the CLI something like > sudo > > apt install ... ? Is it related to the etc/apt folder? What are the > > apt is a program, used to install software on Debian-derived systems. > (You can verify that by typing which apt; which will show that apt is > /usr/bin/apt). > > You can run it to install packages (apt install), to update the > system (apt update && apt upgrade or dist-upgrade), and for > various other functions. > > apt originally stands for "Advanced Package Tool", and it's also > used as a general name for the way Debian packages software, > and all the programs that support it (in addition to apt, there are > lots of helpers like apt-cache, aptitude, apt-file, dpkg, synaptic > and on and on). You can read more about the general use on Wikipedia: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APT_(software) > > Some of those programs build in extra stuff: e.g. aptitude has > nicer searching than apt-cache and different dependency management > from /usr/bin/apt, while synaptic has a GUI for people who aren't > comfortable running in the command line. But even if you use some > of these tools, e.g. Ubuntu's package manager GUI, you're still > "using apt" underneath. > > > pros/cons? > > If I'm on a Debian system, I always install software using apt > unless there's a good reason not to. That way, when I update my > system, I automatically get updates for every apt-installed package. > > Some reasons that would lead me to install a program some other > way than apt: > - not available in apt, either because it's proprietary (e.g. Zoom) > or because nobody has packaged it > - the version in the distro I'm running is too old, and I need > features or bugfixes that come with a more recent version > - I plan to contribute to the package, so I need the cutting > edge version built from source > > > Another way to install is into home bin. > > What does that mean? Is it related to the home/bin folder? > > You can, optionally, create a directory named "bin" inside your > home directory -- so you could refer to it as ~/bin, $HOME/bin, > or /home/your-user-name/bin -- and add it to your PATH, the > environment variable that controls where the system looks for > executable programs. > > In my ~/bin, I mostly put programs I wrote myself, and a few > scripts I downloaded from a trusted source. It isn't somewhere > I typically install downloaded software packages. > > > Where are the programs coming from if installed using apt or not from > apt. > > When you install using apt, the programs are almost always coming > from your Linux distro's repositories for the version of the distro > you're running (e.g. Ubuntu 20.04, Debian Wheezy). You can choose to > add additional repositories outside the distro, but that's fairly > unusual and something you have to do deliberately. For instance, > some people make PPAs ("Personal Package Archive") for Ubuntu to > distribute newer versions of certain programs than the ones Debian > distributes. > > > How safe are programs from outside the repository? Which places are safer > > than others? > > Programs from outside the repository are only as safe as the place > you're getting them. For instance, if I download firefox from > mozilla.org, I figure that's pretty safe; if mozilla.org got > compromised it would be all over the news and I'd hear about it. > But if someone on an IRC channel says "Hey, there's a great program > you can download from harrysprograms.com", that's obviously not > safe. You have to use your own judgement and common sense when > downloading out-of-distro packages. > > Some sources can be misleading. For instance, Python programs can be > installed using pip, perl programs using cpan, ruby programs using > gems; you would think these should be safe because they're coming > from the organization behind Python or Perl or Ruby, but they're not > really, because anyone can upload programs to those systems. That's > also true of the AUR system in Arch Linux. So again, you have to use > common sense: is it a program a lot of people seem to use and trust? > Has it been around for a long time? > > > Does it make a difference which folder on my hard drive where the > programs > > are installed to? > > No. If you're running it, you're running it, regardless of where it > lives on your file system. > > ...Akkana > _______________________________________________ > nmglug mailing list > nmglug at lists.nmglug.org > http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donguitar at gmail.com Thu Dec 3 13:22:52 2020 From: donguitar at gmail.com (Don Crowder) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 14:22:52 -0700 Subject: [nmglug] Learning about options for installing programs, help please In-Reply-To: References: <20201201180056.GA2198@shallowsky.com> Message-ID: Semantics can be an obstacle. I opened Synaptic after reading your post and searched for "clip art". I got a lot of results, none of which appeared to be clip art but when I tried again, searching instead for "clipart", I got specific and usable results. When I'm looking for an application for a specific purpose I don't normally begin with Synaptic. I begin with google. Of course if you google "free clipart for LibreOffice" you'll need to pack a lunch because it'll take a while to screen the results. It's a bit of a mixed blessing. :) Of course if I were a total novice wanting to make a fancy poster and searched "Poster software for Linux", I'd get fairly useful results. In either case, the answer you get is only as good as the question you ask. My point is simply that if you can't get an answer to your question, consider rephrasing the question. :) On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 1:57 PM Ted Pomeroy wrote: > NMGLUGers, I use both 'apt' on cli and Synaptic(GUI) for installing > packages. If I know the package name and how it fits into my system the cli > is quicker and direct. I have usually reviewed the repositories in > /etc/apt/sources.list; and have a sense of the differences between them. > However, if I am in doubt or do not know the package name, but do know what > area I need to have function more I use Synaptic and rely on its Search > function and the brief descriptions of each package. A recent instance of > this was a search for Libreoffice clipart that is free and compatible with > my sources.list. While there is a vast amount of free and non-free clipart > in the wider world, in Synaptic I could count on not getting caught up in > ambiguous copyright or hidden hooks or incompatibilities. It is a trivial > example I am sure, but gives an example of how the GUI aids me when I am > short on other knowledge. > I hope to see a few of us tonight at our Virtual meeting. Thank you, Ted P. > > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 11:01 AM Akkana Peck wrote: > >> LeRoy Diener writes: >> > For example, one way to install a program is from apt. >> > What does that mean? Is it related to typing in the CLI something like >> sudo >> > apt install ... ? Is it related to the etc/apt folder? What are the >> >> apt is a program, used to install software on Debian-derived systems. >> (You can verify that by typing which apt; which will show that apt is >> /usr/bin/apt). >> >> You can run it to install packages (apt install), to update the >> system (apt update && apt upgrade or dist-upgrade), and for >> various other functions. >> >> apt originally stands for "Advanced Package Tool", and it's also >> used as a general name for the way Debian packages software, >> and all the programs that support it (in addition to apt, there are >> lots of helpers like apt-cache, aptitude, apt-file, dpkg, synaptic >> and on and on). You can read more about the general use on Wikipedia: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APT_(software) >> >> Some of those programs build in extra stuff: e.g. aptitude has >> nicer searching than apt-cache and different dependency management >> from /usr/bin/apt, while synaptic has a GUI for people who aren't >> comfortable running in the command line. But even if you use some >> of these tools, e.g. Ubuntu's package manager GUI, you're still >> "using apt" underneath. >> >> > pros/cons? >> >> If I'm on a Debian system, I always install software using apt >> unless there's a good reason not to. That way, when I update my >> system, I automatically get updates for every apt-installed package. >> >> Some reasons that would lead me to install a program some other >> way than apt: >> - not available in apt, either because it's proprietary (e.g. Zoom) >> or because nobody has packaged it >> - the version in the distro I'm running is too old, and I need >> features or bugfixes that come with a more recent version >> - I plan to contribute to the package, so I need the cutting >> edge version built from source >> >> > Another way to install is into home bin. >> > What does that mean? Is it related to the home/bin folder? >> >> You can, optionally, create a directory named "bin" inside your >> home directory -- so you could refer to it as ~/bin, $HOME/bin, >> or /home/your-user-name/bin -- and add it to your PATH, the >> environment variable that controls where the system looks for >> executable programs. >> >> In my ~/bin, I mostly put programs I wrote myself, and a few >> scripts I downloaded from a trusted source. It isn't somewhere >> I typically install downloaded software packages. >> >> > Where are the programs coming from if installed using apt or not from >> apt. >> >> When you install using apt, the programs are almost always coming >> from your Linux distro's repositories for the version of the distro >> you're running (e.g. Ubuntu 20.04, Debian Wheezy). You can choose to >> add additional repositories outside the distro, but that's fairly >> unusual and something you have to do deliberately. For instance, >> some people make PPAs ("Personal Package Archive") for Ubuntu to >> distribute newer versions of certain programs than the ones Debian >> distributes. >> >> > How safe are programs from outside the repository? Which places are >> safer >> > than others? >> >> Programs from outside the repository are only as safe as the place >> you're getting them. For instance, if I download firefox from >> mozilla.org, I figure that's pretty safe; if mozilla.org got >> compromised it would be all over the news and I'd hear about it. >> But if someone on an IRC channel says "Hey, there's a great program >> you can download from harrysprograms.com", that's obviously not >> safe. You have to use your own judgement and common sense when >> downloading out-of-distro packages. >> >> Some sources can be misleading. For instance, Python programs can be >> installed using pip, perl programs using cpan, ruby programs using >> gems; you would think these should be safe because they're coming >> from the organization behind Python or Perl or Ruby, but they're not >> really, because anyone can upload programs to those systems. That's >> also true of the AUR system in Arch Linux. So again, you have to use >> common sense: is it a program a lot of people seem to use and trust? >> Has it been around for a long time? >> >> > Does it make a difference which folder on my hard drive where the >> programs >> > are installed to? >> >> No. If you're running it, you're running it, regardless of where it >> lives on your file system. >> >> ...Akkana >> _______________________________________________ >> nmglug mailing list >> nmglug at lists.nmglug.org >> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >> > _______________________________________________ > nmglug mailing list > nmglug at lists.nmglug.org > http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From akkana at shallowsky.com Thu Dec 3 14:24:02 2020 From: akkana at shallowsky.com (Akkana Peck) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 15:24:02 -0700 Subject: [nmglug] Learning about options for installing programs, help please In-Reply-To: References: <20201201180056.GA2198@shallowsky.com> Message-ID: <20201203222402.GC1940@shallowsky.com> Don Crowder writes: > Semantics can be an obstacle. I opened Synaptic after reading your post and > searched for "clip art". I got a lot of results, none of which appeared to > be clip art but when I tried again, searching instead for "clipart", I got > specific and usable results. When I'm looking for an application for a > specific purpose I don't normally begin with Synaptic. I begin with > google. Of course if you google "free clipart for LibreOffice" you'll need Being a command-line girl, I like using grep to winnow down search choices. I find it a lot faster than typing lots of repeated patterns into Google or Synaptic. You can search with either apt-cache search or aptitude search; I prefer aptitude. If you want something that includes both "clip" and "art" but you're not sure whether it's clipart, clip art, clip-art or what, you could do this: $ aptitude search clip | grep art p openclipart - Open Clip Art Library p openclipart-libreoffice - clip art for OpenOffice.org/LibreOffice gallery p openclipart-png - clip art in PNG format p openclipart-svg - clip art in SVG format The letter at the beginning of the line indicates whether it's installed or not. If it was installed it would say "i"; anything else means it's not installed or partially installed (details are in man aptitude, but I never remember, so I just look for i or not-i). ...Akkana From donguitar at gmail.com Thu Dec 3 14:30:37 2020 From: donguitar at gmail.com (Don Crowder) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 15:30:37 -0700 Subject: [nmglug] Learning about options for installing programs, help please In-Reply-To: <20201203222402.GC1940@shallowsky.com> References: <20201201180056.GA2198@shallowsky.com> <20201203222402.GC1940@shallowsky.com> Message-ID: Arkana,good info. I should hang out with you more. :) On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 3:24 PM Akkana Peck wrote: > Don Crowder writes: > > Semantics can be an obstacle. I opened Synaptic after reading your post > and > > searched for "clip art". I got a lot of results, none of which appeared > to > > be clip art but when I tried again, searching instead for "clipart", I > got > > specific and usable results. When I'm looking for an application for a > > specific purpose I don't normally begin with Synaptic. I begin with > > google. Of course if you google "free clipart for LibreOffice" you'll > need > > Being a command-line girl, I like using grep to winnow down search > choices. I find it a lot faster than typing lots of repeated > patterns into Google or Synaptic. > > You can search with either apt-cache search or aptitude search; > I prefer aptitude. If you want something that includes both "clip" > and "art" but you're not sure whether it's clipart, clip art, > clip-art or what, you could do this: > > $ aptitude search clip | grep art > p openclipart - Open Clip Art Library > p openclipart-libreoffice - clip art for OpenOffice.org/LibreOffice > gallery > p openclipart-png - clip art in PNG format > p openclipart-svg - clip art in SVG format > > The letter at the beginning of the line indicates whether it's > installed or not. If it was installed it would say "i"; anything > else means it's not installed or partially installed (details are in > man aptitude, but I never remember, so I just look for i or not-i). > > ...Akkana > _______________________________________________ > nmglug mailing list > nmglug at lists.nmglug.org > http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wezzels at gmail.com Tue Dec 8 15:04:51 2020 From: wezzels at gmail.com (Wesley Robbins) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 16:04:51 -0700 Subject: [nmglug] Server hardware Message-ID: One of my friends is giving up his homelab. He has several 1u and 2u servers, couple racks, Cisco hardware, and a bunch of apple laptops. Figured those laptops could go to the python group for kids. Anyways, Jared said posting I might find someone who could use it. 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Some suggested that the reason that the authorization is failing might be related to some KVM settings which Win10 is checking to verify the hardware, and that I should try changing some settings. Indeed, there are some settings that I was guided to in an online NMGLUG to change because, at that time, KVM did not recognize the existence of Win10 at all. That experiment didn't help. The solution to that KVM issue ended up to be to reinstall the OS. So, now, I don't recall what those settings were, nor where to find them. I looked around, and I'm wondering if these are the settings. In KVM virtual machine manager: Edit > Preferences. In the Preferences dialog box, 3rd tab New VM > bottom option CPU default. I'm hesitant to change settings because I'm concerned it will cause problems that I won't be able to fix. I don't really understand many of the items in the KVM menu. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, LeRoy -- I am the Love of God, no matter what. 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URL: From wezzels at gmail.com Sun Dec 27 13:16:39 2020 From: wezzels at gmail.com (Wesley Robbins) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 14:16:39 -0700 Subject: [nmglug] Portable DVE burning app for Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.balena.io/etcher/ It is an appImage which is like a portable app for windows. On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 2:06 PM Don Crowder wrote: > Not long ago I saw an app on a post here that runs as a stand-alone > (portable) software for making a bootable flash drive from a Linux ISO file > and I was very impressed with how well it worked but now I can't recall the > name of the app or find the URL where it was located. Suggestions? > > Thanks in advance. > _______________________________________________ > nmglug mailing list > nmglug at lists.nmglug.org > http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donguitar at gmail.com Sun Dec 27 15:04:18 2020 From: donguitar at gmail.com (Don Crowder) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 16:04:18 -0700 Subject: [nmglug] Portable DVE burning app for Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Wesley. That's the one. On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 2:16 PM Wesley Robbins wrote: > https://www.balena.io/etcher/ > It is an appImage which is like a portable app for windows. > > On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 2:06 PM Don Crowder wrote: > >> Not long ago I saw an app on a post here that runs as a stand-alone >> (portable) software for making a bootable flash drive from a Linux ISO file >> and I was very impressed with how well it worked but now I can't recall the >> name of the app or find the URL where it was located. Suggestions? >> >> Thanks in advance. >> _______________________________________________ >> nmglug mailing list >> nmglug at lists.nmglug.org >> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >> > _______________________________________________ > nmglug mailing list > nmglug at lists.nmglug.org > http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ted.pome at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 14:05:07 2020 From: ted.pome at gmail.com (Ted Pomeroy) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 15:05:07 -0700 Subject: [nmglug] New Year's Eve, Message-ID: NMGLugers, Well we are scheduled for a 5:30pm virtual meet up on New Year's Eve. I hope I remember and am free. I missed Dec.17th, had a meet up of a family sort. Just to remind anybody that Free Software Foundation would like you to join - and if you are in our group you are using Free software and should support the makers and efforts if you can. I did not forward my recent mail from fsf.org, but you can take a look if you are not a member or have not checked the page in a while. I plan to continue with promoting Freedom with the seniors I help and others, too. I don't get out much and am keeping an eye on all the news of the pandemic, so am doubly glad to be able to use and maintain my software. Thank you, Ted P. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: