To All, Thank you. Let me add some further thoughts:<br>I have used Mint on a trial basis, for a while I liked it well enough. but it is a re-mix of Ubuntu and contains more of the non-free bits already installed. That makes it easier to use, but is a compromise with the freedom standards. Also, is Mint on any kind of 'long term' cycle? I ask because I am thinking about installing a system for myself that I can install for others and then feel able to offer support and sincere encouragement to the new user. (This will include new users who are not interested in how it works, but in actually using the OS to do chores. <br>
Gnome 3 is not as user friendly nor customizable as Gnome 2.x. I did look at the Gnome usability project, but I did not feel it was the answer. So, I am falling back on KDE, a desktop I have used and now seems to have both menus and settings for the user.<br>
My choice of a desktop will be for myself and for ease of helping others use the same one. I can always work my way through whatever I can see, but coaching over the phone for a rarely used desktop is frustrating for both myself and the other user. <br>
Suse is an 'rpm' based package system and, though interesting in general, got a bad reputation for having been involved with Novell and the Microsoft Corporation. Users and administrators will note that the directory tree is different from the Debian directory tree. Now that I am familiar with one tree I favor staying there. Like knowing the streets of a favorite city. <br>
Mars, thank you for the 'vrms' "Virtual Richard M. Stallman," application. I am sure I have the jdk and know about some of the issues, also use mp3 and dvd codecs. I am encouraged by the conversations, here and on the bus, about how easy Debian testing is in use and install. <br>
To all: thank you for all the feedback. Let's keep talking. My next question for you is, "How many new users do you support?" "How many non-technical users?" My personal goal is to help others join us in using free software because is is better.<br>
<br>Ted P.<br><br><br>