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I installed Ubuntu 11.10 in a VM (VirtualBox) and then installed
various window managers including Mint and Cinnamon. They sort of
are like the Ubuntu Gnome 2 environment though not quite as slick.
They are however, more familiar than Unity to me. With Gnome 2 I
have transparent windows and other tweaks that the legacy Gnome
desktop available in 11.04 and up doesn't have. Also, my chipset
doesn't have the 3D acceleration that the newer Ubuntu distros
require. <br>
So I think it is possible to upgrade to Unity in 11.10 and then just
use the Mint desktop environment, or Cinnamon or XFCE, KDE or
whatever.<br>
And Mars, upgrades in Ubuntu don't require a new install and I have
been upgrading since 6.04. With all of the software that I have
installed and built from source or non-Ubuntu package manager
methods, I am loathe to reinstall the distro or any other like
Debian, though I would love to do so (the Debian install that
is).....<br>
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On 03/19/2012 12:56 PM, Rob Haag wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I have switched to Linux Mint. I am happay again, like old Ubuntu...
pre "Gnome/Unity/take away my settings (ctrl-alt-backspace and more)"
antics happy. Honestly I still think I'm using Ubuntu (and I am
really), until I say 'I use Ubuntu' and remember I'm usings Linux
Mint's version of Ubuntu. It's pretty great split, I use Gnome3 and
Gnome Shell as I am down with some high tech. desktop stuff. Mint
seemed to listen to the Ubuntu user's complaints and filled the need.
For me, there were (are) some tweaks and adjustment, but there always
are for me. I had to also figure out some differences, but that seems
to be the case with any latest release of Ubuntu as well. Also, I have
not found any package or tweak or instructions/tutorials that don't
work for me either... not even having to make translations to work
with Mint when looking a an Ubuntu item.
-Rob Haag
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Satsangat Khalsa <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:satsangat@khalsa.com"><satsangat@khalsa.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Ted,
You had mentioned a preference for gnome. Have you given thought to
Linux Mint?
I understand it can be configured with Gnome3.
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:11 AM, nick pitlosh <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nickpitlosh@gmail.com"><nickpitlosh@gmail.com></a> wrote:
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You both should look at the suse kiwi project its really neat
On Mar 18, 2012 6:55 PM, "Jeffrey Miller" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jeffrey@strandcruisers.com"><jeffrey@strandcruisers.com></a>
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Excellent, Ted! Thanks for sharing.
We are still using DVD version of 11.10 of Edubuntu for live booting
purposes at our school. I'll have to look into the differences in the
educational software for both options. We are still looking at JumpDrives
for booting options. But may now move to some type of NetBoot option for
loading Edubuntu.
Thanks again, Ted.
Peace
On Mar 18, 2012, at 4:50 PM, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
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<pre wrap="">To All, and especially the small group at our last meeting, Hello and
thank you for interest and comments about the new Long Term Support
editions of Ubuntu. I think that I will switch to Kubuntu for several
reasons:
1.It is customizable by the user, giving the user controls over what
software runs and the settings for that software.
2.KDE is a community project, and 'Unity' is a corporate project
originating out of the goals and workings of Canonical. They are still
a good curator/gatekeeper for selecting and tuning from the Debian
repositories which makes it easier for me to use programs. Canonical
in Ubuntu does work out the incompatibilities or conflicts that
sometimes arise between packages.
3.KDE is menu based, and I happen to like menus and a system that
works like a list of contents or an index. It will mean learning a
slightly different lest than Gnome 2.x, but seems better than other
options at this time.
4.KDE and the 'K' packages have some very good things I already use,
especially Kstars. It will mean learning the settings menu and a new
environment: Qtk instead of gtk, but I guess that will have to be part
of the effort this year.
5. I confess I like the easy way Ubuntu allows addition of the NON
Free bits, which enable Flash and mp3 and some dvd playing. We
certainly are in a crush of loss of freedom and I may change my mind
on these eventually. (Keep reminding me of my errors, all you purists
and higher beings.)
I will not be installing right away, there is a full year to go on
Lucid 10.04 LTS. I may even extend my use beyond the support as I did
with 8.10. I will be using a live disk of the latest stable version -
11.10, Oneric, which I have already downloaded. I may also try
Xubuntu, as an alternative. But I really like all the tweaking
available in KDE versus other current options. May someday I will just
use Debian stable and pick and choose in the Debian repositories
directly.
Thanks for your thoughts, see you next meeting, Ted P.
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