<div dir="ltr">Sorry for the chat-style messages, but as a last note, I know you tried changing your DNS settings, those last tests are meant to check for your ISP rewriting DNS responses. It's been known to happen.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:07 PM, Max Bond <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:max.o.bond@gmail.com" target="_blank">max.o.bond@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">(Obviously NXDomain hijacking wouldn't cause the problems you're experiencing, that's more meant to gauge CyberMesa's willingness to tamper with your traffic.)<br></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Max Bond <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:max.o.bond@gmail.com" target="_blank">max.o.bond@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Could you run a couple of commands to test for bad behavior by your ISP?<br></div><div><br></div><div># Middleware boxes? Won't reveal clever ones.<br></div><div>traceroute <a href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a> > tr-dns.txt<br></div><div>traceroute 172.217.11.238 > tr-direct.txt<br></div><div><br># NXDomain hijacking?<br></div>dig any <a href="http://ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net" target="_blank">ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe<wbr>.net</a> > nxdomain-default.txt<br>dig @<a href="http://8.8.8.8" target="_blank">8.8.8.8</a> any <a href="http://ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net" target="_blank">ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe<wbr>.net</a> > nxdomain-google.txt<br></div><div><br># DNS MITM?<br></div><div>dig any <a href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a> > dns-default.txt<br></div>dig @<a href="http://8.8.8.8" target="_blank">8.8.8.8</a> any <a href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a> > dns-google.txt<br></div><div>curl -IX HEAD <a href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a> > http-dns.txt<br></div><div>curl -IX HEAD -H "Host: <a href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a>" 172.217.11.238 > http-direct.txt<br>(echo -en "GET / HTTP/1.1\r\nHost: <a href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a>\r\n\r\n"; sleep 5;) | openssl s_client -connect <a href="http://172.217.11.238:443" target="_blank">172.217.11.238:443</a> > https-direct.txt<br><br></div></div><div class="m_5540406043916551696HOEnZb"><div class="m_5540406043916551696h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Tim Embler <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:timlists@tristarcreations.com" target="_blank">timlists@tristarcreations.com</a><wbr>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="m_5540406043916551696m_471871676259125711m_6559855648087661667moz-cite-prefix">yeah I would have thought the restart
would have done it. like you even when the browser can't connect,
pinging it still works fine for me too which is why I ruled out
dns. I have a feeling you tried this but have you tried clearing
all of your <a href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a> cookies/cache? That also temporary fixed
the issue for me but I have log back into anything google which
makes that a pain. <br><div><div class="m_5540406043916551696m_471871676259125711h5">
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On 5/13/17 1:00 PM, Brian OKeefe wrote:<br>
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I found many people having this experience on the forums but the
efforts that I tried which were solutions for them didn't help me.
Like I wrote, no browser that is not in a VM connects to
<a href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a>. My ISP is Cybermesa and they tried to help with DNS
settings but that's all fine and was never an issue before anyway.
I've tried disabling all add-ons for Firefox and that doesn't make
a difference. A restart, which would kill all instances of all
apps doesn't help.<br>
There are many "fixes" out there. Just none of them fix my
problem, which is essentially identical to what other users, like
you, experienced. they solved the issue. I cannot.<br>
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<div class="m_5540406043916551696m_471871676259125711m_6559855648087661667moz-cite-prefix">On 05/13/2017 12:50 PM, Tim Embler
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<div class="m_5540406043916551696m_471871676259125711m_6559855648087661667moz-cite-prefix">While this issue is sad I am still
so happy to see someone else having this issue and it is not
just me. Like you I have searched everywhere and have not been
able to find anyone else having this issue. Are you using
Chrome/Chromium? I was using Chromium at first but when the
issue started I switched to Chrome which did also have the
same problem. I have not tried using Firefox for an extended
amount of time to see if that also has this. If I kill all
instances of Chrome/Chromium it will connect to google again
but after a few hours the issue comes back where it will not
search/connect to <a href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a>. You do have to make sure you
kill all instances of chrome/chromium for that temporary fix
to work. On a permanent fix I have no idea at this point.<br>
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Hi all. Sorry to have missed meetings and not been in contact
so it's a bit awkward asking for help. But I will!<br>
I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 on an acer laptop. Until a few weeks
ago all things google worked fine and it was my primary search
engine. It started slowing down trying to connect to
<a href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a>, <a class="m_5540406043916551696m_471871676259125711m_6559855648087661667moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.google.com" target="_blank">www.google.com</a>,
<a class="m_5540406043916551696m_471871676259125711m_6559855648087661667moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.google....you" target="_blank">http://www.google....you</a>
get the idea. Eventually, about 2 weeks ago it just stopped
connecting at all. So:<br>
<br>
I checked every forum and help page I could find. I changed
DNS servers to open DNS, googleDNS, changed all configuration
files to reflect those changes, many command line instructions
and on and on. None of the Solved marked issues solved my
problem even though the symptoms were the same.<br>
I run 2 VMs, Ubuntu 16.10 and FreeBSD. Both of those machines
can use google as normal. that seems weird to me.<br>
I can load something like <a href="http://groups.google.com" target="_blank">groups.google.com</a> and then chose
apps like gmail, drive, photos and several others but not
calendar or maps (which is what I really want). I can use all
those apps on the VMs though. <br>
In 16.04 no browser loads google. com<br>
I can ping <a href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a> with no packet loss.<br>
I'm stumped.<br>
Help?<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
Brian<br>
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