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    Also no google earth. App loads but can't search but can zoom in,
    rotate, etc.<br>
    Thanks for helping!<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/13/2017 07:16 PM, Max Bond wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAKrUFkjKZkcsAOuwcRqT56bcR0NfSmVf1POZ8PU9xDmzJX4j6Q@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
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        <div>That is very strange. Does anyone have a hypothesis?<br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Brian
          OKeefe <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:okeefe@cybermesa.com" target="_blank">okeefe@cybermesa.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Firefox 53.0.2, tried
              Chrome, Chromium, Pale Moon, all latest from updates<span
                class=""><br>
                <br>
                <div class="m_-4933720081903637165moz-cite-prefix">On
                  05/13/2017 05:02 PM, Max Bond wrote:<br>
                </div>
              </span>
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                          <div>What I can conclude for the information
                            that was in the email is that you are able
                            to reach <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="https://google.com" target="_blank">https://google.com</a>
                            from the terminal. Since you said you
                            weren't able to do this from the browser,
                            that suggests you were correct & that
                            the issue is with your browser.<br>
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                          Could you tell us precisely which browser
                          you're using & what version? You mentioned
                          using Firefox; have you tried from Chromium?<br>
                          <br>
                        </div>
                        Thanks,<br>
                      </div>
                      Max<br>
                    </div>
                    <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 13, 2017 at
                        4:59 PM, Max Bond <span dir="ltr"><<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:max.o.bond@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank">max.o.bond@gmail.com</a>></span>
                        wrote:<br>
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                          0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
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                            <div>
                              <div>Hey Brian,<br>
                                <br>
                              </div>
                              Pardon me for not explaining better, but
                              those commands created a series of .txt
                              files (tr-dns.txt, tr-direct.txt, etc)
                              which have the relevant information inside
                              them.<br>
                              <br>
                            </div>
                            Could you attach those files? The names are
                            at the end of every line, after the ">".<br>
                          </div>
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                            <div class="m_-4933720081903637165h5">
                              <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 13,
                                  2017 at 4:56 PM, Brian OKeefe <span
                                    dir="ltr"><<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:okeefe@cybermesa.com"
                                      target="_blank">okeefe@cybermesa.com</a>></span>
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                    style="margin:0 0 0
                                    .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
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                                    <div text="#000000"
                                      bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> thanks Max,<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Here's the terminal output:<br>
                                      <br>
                                      root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubunt<wbr>u#
                                      traceroute <a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://google.com"
                                        target="_blank">google.com</a>
                                      > tr-dns.txt<br>
                                      root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubunt<wbr>u#
                                      traceroute 172.217.11.238 >
                                      tr-direct.txt<br>
                                      root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubunt<wbr>u#
                                      dig any <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net" target="_blank">ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe<wbr>.net</a>
                                      > nxdomain-default.txt<br>
                                      root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubunt<wbr>u#
                                      dig @<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://8.8.8.8"
                                        target="_blank">8.8.8.8</a> any
                                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net"
                                        target="_blank">ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe<wbr>.net</a>
                                      > nxdomain-google.txt<br>
                                      root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubunt<wbr>u#
                                      <br>
                                      root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubunt<wbr>u#
                                      <br>
                                      root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubunt<wbr>u#
                                      dig @<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://8.8.8.8"
                                        target="_blank">8.8.8.8</a> any
                                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net"
                                        target="_blank">ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe<wbr>.net</a>
                                      > nxdomain-google.txt<br>
                                      root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubunt<wbr>u#
                                      dig any <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://google.com"
                                        target="_blank">google.com</a>
                                      > dns-default.txt<br>
                                      root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubunt<wbr>u#
                                      dig @<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://8.8.8.8"
                                        target="_blank">8.8.8.8</a> any
                                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://google.com"
                                        target="_blank">google.com</a>
                                      > dns-google.txt<br>
                                      root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubunt<wbr>u#
                                      curl -IX HEAD <a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://google.com"
                                        target="_blank">google.com</a>
                                      > http-dns.txt<br>
                                        % Total    % Received % Xferd 
                                      Average Speed   Time    Time    
                                      Time  Current<br>
                                                                    <wbr>  
                                      Dload  Upload   Total   Spent   
                                      Left  Speed<br>
                                        0   219    0     0    0    
                                      0      0      0 --:--:-- --:--:--
                                      --:--:--     0<br>
                                      root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubunt<wbr>u#
                                      curl -IX HEAD -H "Host: <a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://google.com"
                                        target="_blank">google.com</a>"
                                      172.217.11.238 >
                                      http-direct.txt<br>
                                        % Total    % Received % Xferd 
                                      Average Speed   Time    Time    
                                      Time  Current<br>
                                                                    <wbr>  
                                      Dload  Upload   Total   Spent   
                                      Left  Speed<br>
                                        0   219    0     0    0    
                                      0      0      0 --:--:-- --:--:--
                                      --:--:--     0<br>
                                      root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubunt<wbr>u#
                                      (echo -en "GET / HTTP/1.1\r\nHost:
                                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://google.com"
                                        target="_blank">google.com</a>\r\n\r\n";

                                      sleep 5;) | openssl s_client
                                      -connect <a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://172.217.11.238:443"
                                        target="_blank">172.217.11.238:443</a>
                                      > https-direct.txt<br>
                                      depth=3 C = US, O = Equifax, OU =
                                      Equifax Secure Certificate
                                      Authority<br>
                                      verify return:1<br>
                                      depth=2 C = US, O = GeoTrust Inc.,
                                      CN = GeoTrust Global CA<br>
                                      verify return:1<br>
                                      depth=1 C = US, O = Google Inc, CN
                                      = Google Internet Authority G2<br>
                                      verify return:1<br>
                                      depth=0 C = US, ST = California, L
                                      = Mountain View, O = Google Inc,
                                      CN = *.<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://google.com"
                                        target="_blank">google.com</a><br>
                                      verify return:1<br>
                                      DONE
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                                          <br>
                                          <div
class="m_-4933720081903637165m_-7637727070301945991m_5656701184046438624moz-cite-prefix">On

                                            05/13/2017 02:09 PM, Max
                                            Bond wrote:<br>
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                                            <div dir="ltr">Sorry for the
                                              chat-style messages, but
                                              as a last note, I know you
                                              tried changing your DNS
                                              settings, those last tests
                                              are meant to check for
                                              your ISP rewriting DNS
                                              responses. It's been known
                                              to happen.<br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                              <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                Sat, May 13, 2017 at
                                                2:07 PM, Max Bond <span
                                                  dir="ltr"><<a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:max.o.bond@gmail.com" target="_blank">max.o.bond@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                wrote:<br>
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                                                  style="margin:0 0 0
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                                                  <div dir="ltr">(Obviously
                                                    NXDomain hijacking
                                                    wouldn't cause the
                                                    problems you're
                                                    experiencing, that's
                                                    more meant to gauge
                                                    CyberMesa's
                                                    willingness to
                                                    tamper with your
                                                    traffic.)<br>
                                                  </div>
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class="m_-4933720081903637165m_-7637727070301945991m_5656701184046438624HOEnZb">
                                                    <div
class="m_-4933720081903637165m_-7637727070301945991m_5656701184046438624h5">
                                                      <div
                                                        class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                        <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Sat, May 13,
                                                          2017 at 2:06
                                                          PM, Max Bond <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:max.o.bond@gmail.com"
                                                          target="_blank">max.o.bond@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
                                                          style="margin:0
                                                          0 0
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                                                          solid;padding-left:1ex">
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>Could you
                                                          run a couple
                                                          of commands to
                                                          test for bad
                                                          behavior by
                                                          your ISP?<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>#
                                                          Middleware
                                                          boxes? Won't
                                                          reveal clever
                                                          ones.<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>traceroute
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a> > tr-dns.txt<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>traceroute

                                                          172.217.11.238
                                                          >
                                                          tr-direct.txt<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          # NXDomain
                                                          hijacking?<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          dig any <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net" target="_blank">ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe<wbr>.net</a>
                                                          >
                                                          nxdomain-default.txt<br>
                                                          dig @<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://8.8.8.8" target="_blank">8.8.8.8</a> any <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net" target="_blank">ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe<wbr>.net</a>
                                                          >
                                                          nxdomain-google.txt<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          # DNS MITM?<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>dig any <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a>
                                                          >
                                                          dns-default.txt<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          dig @<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://8.8.8.8" target="_blank">8.8.8.8</a> any <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a> >
                                                          dns-google.txt<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>curl -IX
                                                          HEAD <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a> >
                                                          http-dns.txt<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>curl -IX
                                                          HEAD -H "Host:
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a>" 172.217.11.238
                                                          >
                                                          http-direct.txt<br>
                                                          (echo -en "GET
                                                          /
                                                          HTTP/1.1\r\nHost:
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a>\r\n\r\n"; sleep
                                                          5;) | openssl
                                                          s_client
                                                          -connect <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://172.217.11.238:443" target="_blank">172.217.11.238:443</a>
                                                          >
                                                          https-direct.txt<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
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class="m_-4933720081903637165m_-7637727070301945991m_5656701184046438624m_5540406043916551696HOEnZb">
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class="m_-4933720081903637165m_-7637727070301945991m_5656701184046438624m_5540406043916551696h5">
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                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Sat, May 13,
                                                          2017 at 1:04
                                                          PM, Tim Embler
                                                          <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:timlists@tristarcreations.com"
                                                          target="_blank">timlists@tristarcreations.com</a><wbr>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
                                                          style="margin:0
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                                                          #ccc
                                                          solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div
                                                          text="#000000"
bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
                                                          <div
class="m_-4933720081903637165m_-7637727070301945991m_5656701184046438624m_5540406043916551696m_471871676259125711m_6559855648087661667moz-cite-prefix">yeah


                                                          I would have
                                                          thought the
                                                          restart would
                                                          have done it.
                                                          like you even
                                                          when the
                                                          browser can't
                                                          connect,
                                                          pinging it
                                                          still works
                                                          fine for me
                                                          too which is
                                                          why I ruled
                                                          out dns. I
                                                          have a feeling
                                                          you tried this
                                                          but have you
                                                          tried clearing
                                                          all of your <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a>
                                                          cookies/cache?
                                                          That also
                                                          temporary
                                                          fixed the
                                                          issue for me
                                                          but I have log
                                                          back into
                                                          anything
                                                          google which
                                                          makes that a
                                                          pain. <br>
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                                                          <div
class="m_-4933720081903637165m_-7637727070301945991m_5656701184046438624m_5540406043916551696m_471871676259125711h5">
                                                          <br>
                                                          On 5/13/17
                                                          1:00 PM, Brian
                                                          OKeefe wrote:<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
class="m_-4933720081903637165m_-7637727070301945991m_5656701184046438624m_5540406043916551696m_471871676259125711h5">
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite"> I
                                                          found many
                                                          people having
                                                          this
                                                          experience on
                                                          the forums but
                                                          the efforts
                                                          that I tried
                                                          which were
                                                          solutions for
                                                          them didn't
                                                          help me. Like
                                                          I wrote, no
                                                          browser that
                                                          is not in a VM
                                                          connects to <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a>.
                                                          My ISP is
                                                          Cybermesa and
                                                          they tried to
                                                          help with DNS
                                                          settings but
                                                          that's all
                                                          fine and was
                                                          never an issue
                                                          before anyway.
                                                          I've tried
                                                          disabling all
                                                          add-ons for
                                                          Firefox and
                                                          that doesn't
                                                          make a
                                                          difference. A
                                                          restart, which
                                                          would kill all
                                                          instances of
                                                          all apps
                                                          doesn't help.<br>
                                                          There are many
                                                          "fixes" out
                                                          there. Just
                                                          none of them
                                                          fix my
                                                          problem, which
                                                          is essentially
                                                          identical to
                                                          what other
                                                          users, like
                                                          you,
                                                          experienced.
                                                          they solved
                                                          the issue. I
                                                          cannot.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div
class="m_-4933720081903637165m_-7637727070301945991m_5656701184046438624m_5540406043916551696m_471871676259125711m_6559855648087661667moz-cite-prefix">On


                                                          05/13/2017
                                                          12:50 PM, Tim
                                                          Embler wrote:<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
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                                                          this issue is
                                                          sad I am still
                                                          so happy to
                                                          see someone
                                                          else having
                                                          this issue and
                                                          it is not just
                                                          me. Like you I
                                                          have searched
                                                          everywhere and
                                                          have not been
                                                          able to find
                                                          anyone else
                                                          having this
                                                          issue. Are you
                                                          using
                                                          Chrome/Chromium?
                                                          I was using
                                                          Chromium at
                                                          first but when
                                                          the issue
                                                          started I
                                                          switched to
                                                          Chrome which
                                                          did also have
                                                          the same
                                                          problem. I
                                                          have not tried
                                                          using Firefox
                                                          for an
                                                          extended
                                                          amount of time
                                                          to see if that
                                                          also has this.
                                                          If I kill all
                                                          instances of
                                                          Chrome/Chromium
                                                          it will
                                                          connect to
                                                          google again
                                                          but after a
                                                          few hours the
                                                          issue comes
                                                          back where it
                                                          will not
                                                          search/connect
                                                          to <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a>. You do have to
                                                          make sure you
                                                          kill all
                                                          instances of
                                                          chrome/chromium
                                                          for that
                                                          temporary fix
                                                          to work. On a
                                                          permanent fix
                                                          I have no idea
                                                          at this point.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          On 5/13/17
                                                          12:40 PM,
                                                          Brian OKeefe
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          Hi all. Sorry
                                                          to have missed
                                                          meetings and
                                                          not been in
                                                          contact so
                                                          it's a bit
                                                          awkward asking
                                                          for help. But
                                                          I will!<br>
                                                          I'm running
                                                          Ubuntu 16.04
                                                          on an acer
                                                          laptop. Until
                                                          a few weeks
                                                          ago all things
                                                          google worked
                                                          fine and it
                                                          was my primary
                                                          search engine.
                                                          It started
                                                          slowing down
                                                          trying to
                                                          connect to <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a>,
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="http://www.google....you" target="_blank">http://www.google....you</a>
                                                          get the idea.
                                                          Eventually,
                                                          about 2 weeks
                                                          ago it just
                                                          stopped
                                                          connecting at
                                                          all. So:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I checked
                                                          every forum
                                                          and help page
                                                          I could find.
                                                          I changed DNS
                                                          servers to
                                                          open DNS,
                                                          googleDNS,
                                                          changed all
                                                          configuration
                                                          files to
                                                          reflect those
                                                          changes, many
                                                          command line
                                                          instructions
                                                          and on and on.
                                                          None of the
                                                          Solved marked
                                                          issues solved
                                                          my problem
                                                          even though
                                                          the symptoms
                                                          were the same.<br>
                                                          I run 2 VMs,
                                                          Ubuntu 16.10
                                                          and FreeBSD.
                                                          Both of those
                                                          machines can
                                                          use google as
                                                          normal. that
                                                          seems weird to
                                                          me.<br>
                                                          I can load
                                                          something like
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://groups.google.com" target="_blank">groups.google.com</a>
                                                          and then chose
                                                          apps like
                                                          gmail, drive,
                                                          photos and
                                                          several others
                                                          but not
                                                          calendar or
                                                          maps (which is
                                                          what I really
                                                          want). I can
                                                          use all those
                                                          apps on the
                                                          VMs though. <br>
                                                          In 16.04 no
                                                          browser loads
                                                          google. com<br>
                                                          I can ping <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a>
                                                          with no packet
                                                          loss.<br>
                                                          I'm stumped.<br>
                                                          Help?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Thanks<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Brian<br>
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