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    Hi Andres and all,<br>
    Here at Iconik connected to the network so all I have is the same
    result.<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/15/2017 01:33 PM, Andres Paglayan
      wrote:<br>
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      cite="mid:0d5d2b21-281d-538b-edb2-0a31fb286d8a@paglayan.com"
      type="cite">
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      <p>what happens if you create another user account in the same
        machine and try from there?</p>
      <p>have you tried connecting form another network, like wifi from
        a coffee?</p>
    </blockquote>
    No difference<br>
    <pre wrap="">
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    <blockquote
      cite="mid:0d5d2b21-281d-538b-edb2-0a31fb286d8a@paglayan.com"
      type="cite">
      <p>have you installed any recent extension?</p>
      <p>did you create any nftables / iptables rules?</p>
      <p>for diagnosis only, what happens if you include one of google's
        ips on the hosts file?</p>
      <p><br>
      </p>
      <br>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/14/2017 09:00 PM, Brian OKeefe
        wrote:<br>
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      <blockquote cite="mid:591919D8.9050608@cybermesa.com" type="cite">
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        Another bit of info but how useful? I have DraftLogic distance
        calculator I use in firefox. It uses google maps and layers on
        that. Google maps load for that site but not as maps.google.com.
        Here's  DraftLogic:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
          class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.daftlogic.com/projects-advanced-google-maps-distance-calculator.htm">https://www.daftlogic.com/projects-advanced-google-maps-distance-calculator.htm</a>.<br>
        Anybody know other sites that use google maps I could try?<br>
        Thanks<br>
        <br>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/14/2017 01:21 PM, Max Bond
          wrote:<br>
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        <blockquote
cite="mid:CAKrUFkgWTkJ9UhR0mMRAbX4sMR2JPp=uEXJeLSxxYC7nwEXH9g@mail.gmail.com"
          type="cite">
          <div dir="ltr">Could you bring it to the next session? I have
            a couple ideas, but they're not very friendly to remote
            debugging.<br>
          </div>
          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
            <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 1:17 PM,
              Brian OKeefe <span dir="ltr"><<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:okeefe@cybermesa.com" target="_blank">okeefe@cybermesa.com</a>></span>
              wrote:<br>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Also no google
                  earth. App loads but can't search but can zoom in,
                  rotate, etc.<br>
                  Thanks for helping!
                  <div>
                    <div class="h5"><br>
                      <br>
                      <div class="m_-1833955546902929174moz-cite-prefix">On

                        05/13/2017 07:16 PM, Max Bond wrote:<br>
                      </div>
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                        <div dir="ltr">
                          <div>That is very strange. Does anyone have a
                            hypothesis?<br>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                          <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 13, 2017
                            at 5:26 PM, Brian OKeefe <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:okeefe@cybermesa.com"
                                target="_blank">okeefe@cybermesa.com</a>></span>
                            wrote:<br>
                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                              style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
                              #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                              <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
                                Firefox 53.0.2, tried Chrome, Chromium,
                                Pale Moon, all latest from updates<span><br>
                                  <br>
                                  <div
                                    class="m_-1833955546902929174m_-4933720081903637165moz-cite-prefix">On

                                    05/13/2017 05:02 PM, Max Bond wrote:<br>
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                                </span>
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                                  <div class="m_-1833955546902929174h5">
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                                      <div dir="ltr">
                                        <div>
                                          <div>
                                            <div>What I can conclude for
                                              the information that was
                                              in the email is that you
                                              are able to reach <a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="https://google.com"
                                                target="_blank">https://google.com</a>
                                              from the terminal. Since
                                              you said you weren't able
                                              to do this from the
                                              browser, that suggests you
                                              were correct & that
                                              the issue is with your
                                              browser.<br>
                                              <br>
                                            </div>
                                            Could you tell us precisely
                                            which browser you're using
                                            & what version? You
                                            mentioned using Firefox;
                                            have you tried from
                                            Chromium?<br>
                                            <br>
                                          </div>
                                          Thanks,<br>
                                        </div>
                                        Max<br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat,
                                          May 13, 2017 at 4:59 PM, Max
                                          Bond <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:max.o.bond@gmail.com"
                                              target="_blank">max.o.bond@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                          wrote:<br>
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                                            class="gmail_quote"
                                            style="margin:0 0 0
                                            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                                            solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                            <div dir="ltr">
                                              <div>
                                                <div>Hey Brian,<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                </div>
                                                Pardon me for not
                                                explaining better, but
                                                those commands created a
                                                series of .txt files
                                                (tr-dns.txt,
                                                tr-direct.txt, etc)
                                                which have the relevant
                                                information inside them.<br>
                                                <br>
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                                              Could you attach those
                                              files? The names are at
                                              the end of every line,
                                              after the ">".<br>
                                            </div>
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                                              class="m_-1833955546902929174m_-4933720081903637165HOEnZb">
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                                                <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                  <div
                                                    class="gmail_quote">On

                                                    Sat, May 13, 2017 at
                                                    4:56 PM, Brian
                                                    OKeefe <span
                                                      dir="ltr"><<a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:okeefe@cybermesa.com" target="_blank">okeefe@cybermesa.com</a>></span>
                                                    wrote:<br>
                                                    <blockquote
                                                      class="gmail_quote"
                                                      style="margin:0 0
                                                      0
                                                      .8ex;border-left:1px
                                                      #ccc
                                                      solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                      <div
                                                        text="#000000"
                                                        bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
                                                        thanks Max,<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        Here's the
                                                        terminal output:<br>
                                                        <br>
root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubunt<wbr>u# traceroute <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a> > tr-dns.txt<br>
root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubunt<wbr>u# traceroute 172.217.11.238 >
                                                        tr-direct.txt<br>
root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubunt<wbr>u# dig any <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net" target="_blank">ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe<wbr>.net</a>
                                                        >
                                                        nxdomain-default.txt<br>
root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubunt<wbr>u# dig @<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="http://8.8.8.8"
target="_blank">8.8.8.8</a> any <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="http://ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net"
target="_blank">ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe<wbr>.net</a> >
                                                        nxdomain-google.txt<br>
root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubunt<wbr>u# <br>
root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubunt<wbr>u# <br>
root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubunt<wbr>u# dig @<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="http://8.8.8.8"
target="_blank">8.8.8.8</a> any <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="http://ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net"
target="_blank">ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe<wbr>.net</a> >
                                                        nxdomain-google.txt<br>
root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubunt<wbr>u# dig any <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a> >
                                                        dns-default.txt<br>
root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubunt<wbr>u# dig @<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="http://8.8.8.8"
target="_blank">8.8.8.8</a> any <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="http://google.com"
target="_blank">google.com</a> > dns-google.txt<br>
root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubunt<wbr>u# curl -IX HEAD <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a> >
                                                        http-dns.txt<br>
                                                          % Total    %
                                                        Received %
                                                        Xferd  Average
                                                        Speed   Time   
                                                        Time     Time 
                                                        Current<br>
                              <wbr>   Dload  Upload   Total   Spent   
                                                        Left  Speed<br>
                                                          0   219   
                                                        0     0    0    
                                                        0      0      0
                                                        --:--:--
                                                        --:--:--
                                                        --:--:--     0<br>
root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubunt<wbr>u# curl -IX HEAD -H "Host: <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a>" 172.217.11.238
                                                        >
                                                        http-direct.txt<br>
                                                          % Total    %
                                                        Received %
                                                        Xferd  Average
                                                        Speed   Time   
                                                        Time     Time 
                                                        Current<br>
                              <wbr>   Dload  Upload   Total   Spent   
                                                        Left  Speed<br>
                                                          0   219   
                                                        0     0    0    
                                                        0      0      0
                                                        --:--:--
                                                        --:--:--
                                                        --:--:--     0<br>
root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubunt<wbr>u# (echo -en "GET / HTTP/1.1\r\nHost:
                                                        <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a>\r\n\r\n"; sleep
                                                        5;) | openssl
                                                        s_client
                                                        -connect <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://172.217.11.238:443" target="_blank">172.217.11.238:443</a>
                                                        >
                                                        https-direct.txt<br>
                                                        depth=3 C = US,
                                                        O = Equifax, OU
                                                        = Equifax Secure
                                                        Certificate
                                                        Authority<br>
                                                        verify return:1<br>
                                                        depth=2 C = US,
                                                        O = GeoTrust
                                                        Inc., CN =
                                                        GeoTrust Global
                                                        CA<br>
                                                        verify return:1<br>
                                                        depth=1 C = US,
                                                        O = Google Inc,
                                                        CN = Google
                                                        Internet
                                                        Authority G2<br>
                                                        verify return:1<br>
                                                        depth=0 C = US,
                                                        ST = California,
                                                        L = Mountain
                                                        View, O = Google
                                                        Inc, CN = *.<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a><br>
                                                        verify return:1<br>
                                                        DONE
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                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div
class="m_-1833955546902929174m_-4933720081903637165m_-7637727070301945991m_5656701184046438624moz-cite-prefix">On

                                                          05/13/2017
                                                          02:09 PM, Max
                                                          Bond wrote:<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">Sorry

                                                          for the
                                                          chat-style
                                                          messages, but
                                                          as a last
                                                          note, I know
                                                          you tried
                                                          changing your
                                                          DNS settings,
                                                          those last
                                                          tests are
                                                          meant to check
                                                          for your ISP
                                                          rewriting DNS
                                                          responses.
                                                          It's been
                                                          known to
                                                          happen.<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Sat, May 13,
                                                          2017 at 2:07
                                                          PM, Max Bond <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:max.o.bond@gmail.com"
                                                          target="_blank">max.o.bond@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
                                                          style="margin:0
                                                          0 0
                                                          .8ex;border-left:1px
                                                          #ccc
                                                          solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">(Obviously

                                                          NXDomain
                                                          hijacking
                                                          wouldn't cause
                                                          the problems
                                                          you're
                                                          experiencing,
                                                          that's more
                                                          meant to gauge
                                                          CyberMesa's
                                                          willingness to
                                                          tamper with
                                                          your traffic.)<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
class="m_-1833955546902929174m_-4933720081903637165m_-7637727070301945991m_5656701184046438624HOEnZb">
                                                          <div
class="m_-1833955546902929174m_-4933720081903637165m_-7637727070301945991m_5656701184046438624h5">
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Sat, May 13,
                                                          2017 at 2:06
                                                          PM, Max Bond <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:max.o.bond@gmail.com"
                                                          target="_blank">max.o.bond@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
                                                          style="margin:0
                                                          0 0
                                                          .8ex;border-left:1px
                                                          #ccc
                                                          solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>Could you
                                                          run a couple
                                                          of commands to
                                                          test for bad
                                                          behavior by
                                                          your ISP?<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>#
                                                          Middleware
                                                          boxes? Won't
                                                          reveal clever
                                                          ones.<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>traceroute

                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a> > tr-dns.txt<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>traceroute

                                                          172.217.11.238
                                                          >
                                                          tr-direct.txt<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          # NXDomain
                                                          hijacking?<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          dig any <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net" target="_blank">ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe<wbr>.net</a>
                                                          >
                                                          nxdomain-default.txt<br>
                                                          dig @<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://8.8.8.8" target="_blank">8.8.8.8</a> any <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net" target="_blank">ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe<wbr>.net</a>
                                                          >
                                                          nxdomain-google.txt<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          # DNS MITM?<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>dig any <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a>
                                                          >
                                                          dns-default.txt<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          dig @<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://8.8.8.8" target="_blank">8.8.8.8</a> any <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a> >
                                                          dns-google.txt<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>curl -IX
                                                          HEAD <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a> >
                                                          http-dns.txt<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>curl -IX
                                                          HEAD -H "Host:
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a>" 172.217.11.238
                                                          >
                                                          http-direct.txt<br>
                                                          (echo -en "GET
                                                          /
                                                          HTTP/1.1\r\nHost:
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a>\r\n\r\n"; sleep
                                                          5;) | openssl
                                                          s_client
                                                          -connect <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://172.217.11.238:443" target="_blank">172.217.11.238:443</a>
                                                          >
                                                          https-direct.txt<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
class="m_-1833955546902929174m_-4933720081903637165m_-7637727070301945991m_5656701184046438624m_5540406043916551696HOEnZb">
                                                          <div
class="m_-1833955546902929174m_-4933720081903637165m_-7637727070301945991m_5656701184046438624m_5540406043916551696h5">
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Sat, May 13,
                                                          2017 at 1:04
                                                          PM, Tim Embler
                                                          <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
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                                                          I would have
                                                          thought the
                                                          restart would
                                                          have done it.
                                                          like you even
                                                          when the
                                                          browser can't
                                                          connect,
                                                          pinging it
                                                          still works
                                                          fine for me
                                                          too which is
                                                          why I ruled
                                                          out dns. I
                                                          have a feeling
                                                          you tried this
                                                          but have you
                                                          tried clearing
                                                          all of your <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a>
                                                          cookies/cache?
                                                          That also
                                                          temporary
                                                          fixed the
                                                          issue for me
                                                          but I have log
                                                          back into
                                                          anything
                                                          google which
                                                          makes that a
                                                          pain. <br>
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                                                          <br>
                                                          On 5/13/17
                                                          1:00 PM, Brian
                                                          OKeefe wrote:<br>
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                                                          type="cite"> I
                                                          found many
                                                          people having
                                                          this
                                                          experience on
                                                          the forums but
                                                          the efforts
                                                          that I tried
                                                          which were
                                                          solutions for
                                                          them didn't
                                                          help me. Like
                                                          I wrote, no
                                                          browser that
                                                          is not in a VM
                                                          connects to <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a>.
                                                          My ISP is
                                                          Cybermesa and
                                                          they tried to
                                                          help with DNS
                                                          settings but
                                                          that's all
                                                          fine and was
                                                          never an issue
                                                          before anyway.
                                                          I've tried
                                                          disabling all
                                                          add-ons for
                                                          Firefox and
                                                          that doesn't
                                                          make a
                                                          difference. A
                                                          restart, which
                                                          would kill all
                                                          instances of
                                                          all apps
                                                          doesn't help.<br>
                                                          There are many
                                                          "fixes" out
                                                          there. Just
                                                          none of them
                                                          fix my
                                                          problem, which
                                                          is essentially
                                                          identical to
                                                          what other
                                                          users, like
                                                          you,
                                                          experienced.
                                                          they solved
                                                          the issue. I
                                                          cannot.<br>
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                                                          05/13/2017
                                                          12:50 PM, Tim
                                                          Embler wrote:<br>
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                                                          this issue is
                                                          sad I am still
                                                          so happy to
                                                          see someone
                                                          else having
                                                          this issue and
                                                          it is not just
                                                          me. Like you I
                                                          have searched
                                                          everywhere and
                                                          have not been
                                                          able to find
                                                          anyone else
                                                          having this
                                                          issue. Are you
                                                          using
                                                          Chrome/Chromium?
                                                          I was using
                                                          Chromium at
                                                          first but when
                                                          the issue
                                                          started I
                                                          switched to
                                                          Chrome which
                                                          did also have
                                                          the same
                                                          problem. I
                                                          have not tried
                                                          using Firefox
                                                          for an
                                                          extended
                                                          amount of time
                                                          to see if that
                                                          also has this.
                                                          If I kill all
                                                          instances of
                                                          Chrome/Chromium
                                                          it will
                                                          connect to
                                                          google again
                                                          but after a
                                                          few hours the
                                                          issue comes
                                                          back where it
                                                          will not
                                                          search/connect
                                                          to <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a>. You do have to
                                                          make sure you
                                                          kill all
                                                          instances of
                                                          chrome/chromium
                                                          for that
                                                          temporary fix
                                                          to work. On a
                                                          permanent fix
                                                          I have no idea
                                                          at this point.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          On 5/13/17
                                                          12:40 PM,
                                                          Brian OKeefe
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          Hi all. Sorry
                                                          to have missed
                                                          meetings and
                                                          not been in
                                                          contact so
                                                          it's a bit
                                                          awkward asking
                                                          for help. But
                                                          I will!<br>
                                                          I'm running
                                                          Ubuntu 16.04
                                                          on an acer
                                                          laptop. Until
                                                          a few weeks
                                                          ago all things
                                                          google worked
                                                          fine and it
                                                          was my primary
                                                          search engine.
                                                          It started
                                                          slowing down
                                                          trying to
                                                          connect to <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a>,
                                                          <a
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href="http://www.google....you" target="_blank">http://www.google....you</a>
                                                          get the idea.
                                                          Eventually,
                                                          about 2 weeks
                                                          ago it just
                                                          stopped
                                                          connecting at
                                                          all. So:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I checked
                                                          every forum
                                                          and help page
                                                          I could find.
                                                          I changed DNS
                                                          servers to
                                                          open DNS,
                                                          googleDNS,
                                                          changed all
                                                          configuration
                                                          files to
                                                          reflect those
                                                          changes, many
                                                          command line
                                                          instructions
                                                          and on and on.
                                                          None of the
                                                          Solved marked
                                                          issues solved
                                                          my problem
                                                          even though
                                                          the symptoms
                                                          were the same.<br>
                                                          I run 2 VMs,
                                                          Ubuntu 16.10
                                                          and FreeBSD.
                                                          Both of those
                                                          machines can
                                                          use google as
                                                          normal. that
                                                          seems weird to
                                                          me.<br>
                                                          I can load
                                                          something like
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://groups.google.com" target="_blank">groups.google.com</a>
                                                          and then chose
                                                          apps like
                                                          gmail, drive,
                                                          photos and
                                                          several others
                                                          but not
                                                          calendar or
                                                          maps (which is
                                                          what I really
                                                          want). I can
                                                          use all those
                                                          apps on the
                                                          VMs though. <br>
                                                          In 16.04 no
                                                          browser loads
                                                          google. com<br>
                                                          I can ping <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a>
                                                          with no packet
                                                          loss.<br>
                                                          I'm stumped.<br>
                                                          Help?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Thanks<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Brian<br>
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