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    <p>Well, if you wait late long enough it becomes early, si?<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/22/2018 10:07 AM, Satsangat
      Khalsa wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">I can give you a lift to Early, but I usually
        confuse that with Late;)<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Brian
          O'Keefe <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:okeefe@cybermesa.com" target="_blank">okeefe@cybermesa.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I look
            forward to mtg. too Ted. Getting there at 5:30 is no problem
            but I wouldn't get picked up until 7:40 or so, so I'm not
            sure that will work. If it's nice I can wait outside. My
            wife's thing is on Early street if someone could give me a
            lift there that would be most welcome.<br>
            <br>
            Don't worry about engaging in my fiasco but I have learned a
            lesson, though I don't know how I'll resolve it and getting
            back to a simpler OS set-up as you describe and still have
            at least the most important apps that I use thru Wine or
            otherwise. And what's this about backups? We don't need no
            stinking backups! (Hah). I know that the rsync was supposed
            to create a snapshot of my system and all in it. I know that
            you're not dealing with this sort of thing but it's good
            info none the less. It seems that the update not only
            deleted folders it resurrected some back into my OS and they
            pop up in my file browser after I had deleted them! I wonder
            what went on with that update. what a scramble.<br>
            <br>
            Anyway, if I can make it perhaps someone can at least be
            amused!<br>
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            I'll try to make it, we'll see.<span class="HOEnZb"><font
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                Brian</font></span>
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                On 05/22/2018 08:16 AM, Ted Pomeroy wrote:<br>
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                  Brian, I look forward to meeting you. I arrive at the
                  Baking Co. at<br>
                  about 5pm, meeting officially starts at 5:30. It runs
                  till 7pm when<br>
                  the cafe closes.  Several members adjourn to the
                  Second St. brewery on<br>
                  2nd St., I usually pass on that and go home. I will
                  not comment on the<br>
                  listing you have of things to reveal and repair.  I
                  choose to make my<br>
                  computing simpler and move on to making things work
                  adequately; then<br>
                  carefully save my own files, yielding to progress the
                  OS and<br>
                  applications. The higher level administrators at our
                  meeting will<br>
                  likely be able to comment and assist you.<br>
                  See you Thursday.<br>
                  Thank you, Ted P.<br>
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                  On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 10:48 PM, Brian O'Keefe <<a
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                    Thanks Ted. What time at Baking Co.? I may try to
                    get there if I can get a<br>
                    lift from my wife who has a similar time slot when
                    she's out, 6-7:30. I'm<br>
                    still dealing with my OS breakdown and have done a
                    few things. Briefly, I<br>
                    cloned my SSD to a new SSD and then analysed it with
                    TestDisk (comes with<br>
                    Parted Magic and is a bootable CD). Found a ton of
                    deleted folders that<br>
                    disappeared when I did the update as per the urging
                    of Update Manager and<br>
                    toasted my 1.04 OS. TestDisk shows all the file
                    structure in a partition, my<br>
                    Linux primary, both existing and the deleted folders
                    that it can find. I had<br>
                    lost a major folder I named "Miscellany" (lots of
                    important files over the<br>
                    years) and it shows up but has no files. My Music
                    folder also shows up as<br>
                    not deleted but has no content either. There are
                    hundreds of deleted files,<br>
                    of course as they haven't yet been overwritten (or
                    they wouldn't show up).<br>
                    So I've lost at least the content of 2 major folders
                    or the folder itself<br>
                    and apparently many others since I can't run Ubuntu
                    Desktop. Which are what<br>
                    I can't begin to know and trying to restore them all
                    so that Ubuntu 16.04<br>
                    works again would be difficult beyond measure!
                    TestDisk is a pretty amazing<br>
                    tool and I could show it off. It gives one the
                    chance to recover those<br>
                    deleted folders and copy and then restore them. I
                    have so many deleted files<br>
                    that I have no idea how I would ever determine which
                    are ones I want/need to<br>
                    add to a new 18.04 install. I also want to migrate
                    all of my browser, email,<br>
                    etc. from my hacked firefox and thunderbird (had to
                    to get them to work with<br>
                    my address books, bookmarks, etc. that the newest
                    versions don't see for<br>
                    some reason). If I can make it I can bring the
                    Parted Magic disk, my new USB<br>
                    1TB drive that has my cloned SSD on it. The rsync
                    that you helped me with<br>
                    Mark, is not bootable nor readable with test disk
                    except with Parted Magic<br>
                    file browser (no deleted folders or files though as
                    only TestDisk does that)<br>
                    and not from my current ldxe desktop file browser.
                    It shows up as a bootable<br>
                    image but I get a grub error and a rescue prompt,
                    with which I know not what<br>
                    to do. So a long story and I'm not even sure i can
                    manage the meeting but<br>
                    I'd like to try.<br>
                    <br>
                    Brian<br>
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                    On 05/21/2018 06:02 PM, Ted Pomeroy wrote:<br>
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                      NMGLugers, We meet again this week and if we see
                      the same group we can<br>
                      follow up on several in-process repairs to
                      software and installation.<br>
                      There might be a chance to "tweak" a new install
                      to get the most<br>
                      appropriate software for a new user. We can look
                      at upgrade issues for<br>
                      Ubuntu, and I have an 18.04 Live/Install usb to
                      show off.  I did some<br>
                      reading and at one place it said the Upgrade of
                      older systems is<br>
                      applied at the xx.04.1 level, that is in the first
                      numbered release<br>
                      after the initial release. July 1st is the time
                      these have appeared in<br>
                      the past, give or take some leeway.<br>
                      Anybody can write to the list and add comments or
                      issues to address at<br>
                      the meeting on Thursday.<br>
                      Thank you, Ted P.<br>
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