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<p>Hey Jonathan,</p>
<p>Why on earth did it take 12 hours indeed! Primarily because I
started with a .vdi on virtualbox and that was useless so then I
snagged an .iso and installed that. Many attempts to download
ports because of network errors, which I obviously resolved. I
didn't want to be root user but have my user account and that was
made more difficult by having to get X11 working as I also wanted
a GUI and had to set up conf files that weren't automagically set
up. (It is a 20 minute install with no GUI!) I had to append
several of them, adding glarb from my google searches to them and
also using my sad intuitive abilities to determine where these
files were or if they needed to be created. Yes and yes. I'm using
MATE primarily because of the modifications and additions, again,
to files to get Gnome3, according to the wiki (not ready for 11
apparently from the messages on the forums. I'd like to know how
you installed it) or KDE, which I don't care for. I also added the
guest additions which are not installed as they are for any other
guest OS.</p>
<p>I only do this to play with a UNIX OS and to learn from that.
Linux is not UNIX, as you know, so I'm interested to expand my
knowledge base.</p>
<p>I have installed and played with Slackware and tried Gentoo but
it is not easy (Gentoo). <br>
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<p>My FOSS ? is to get a sense of it. I'm all FOSS as much as
possible but veer from time to time for ease of use. Like, is
there a FOSS version of googleearth? No. and I used GE to create
maps that I needed for my defense in a felony case against me from
Standing Rock. Blew the prosecution away as the maps completely
contradicted the affidavits of the "witnesses" and police. I would
have had a very difficult time doing that work otherwise.</p>
<p>So power to FOSS! But when push comes to shove and there's no
real alternative....well?<br>
</p>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Brian,
Why on earth did it take 12 hours? I have freeBSD 12 (recently
upgraded) running on a 2GB Core 2 Duo and it took maybe 30 minutes to
install freeBSD on it (10 and 11).
I am also curious ... have you thrown a GUI on it? I got GNOME3 on my
instance, but I saw that they finally upgraded to a respectable version
of KDE (not my thing). <u>[Update - I read closer, you used MATE, but spelled it Mate so I missed it.]
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Lastly ... what are you doing with this? And why freeBSD instead of
Slackware or Gentoo? Is it just preference or are there technical reasons.
Also ... imho, the BSD license is not FOSS. Its OS (open source) - and
I think post-TIVOization, that open source and free software mean
different things now. Sorry if I trigger anyone ... just my opinion.
Free to use to anyone without restriction is different than building a
set of compacts around freedom that guide something's use.
All the best - feel free to email me at <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jonathan@jonathanhaack.com" moz-do-not-send="true">jonathan@jonathanhaack.com</a> ...
but I included the list at first since GLUG is this Thursday ... and I
still think freeBSD is cool.
Jonathan</pre>
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