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    <p>Thanks Harold. Responses inserted for ease and clarity. Many
      thanks again<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/22/19 9:23 PM, Harold Furbiter
      wrote:<br>
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          <div>Here is a receipe for boot from an older kernel, and how
            to set it to a default.</div>
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                <p>If you have a few Kernels in your system you can set
                  manually what Kernel version will start:</p>
                <ol>
                  <li>
                    <p>Reboot your PC with pressed Shift button for
                      display GRUB after BIOS will start. You will see
                      something like: <a
                        href="https://i.stack.imgur.com/sSCzp.png"
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                        start page</a></p>
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    <i>I have booted into older kernels or safe mode this way in the
      pas. Now I cannot reboot as all that comes up is the them color
      screen, no login, nothing. So I have to do a hard shutdown. I do
      not get a Grub menu holding down shift key upon starting. I get a
      flat theme color screen. Nothing more</i><br>
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                    <p>Select "Advanced options for Ubuntu" and memorize
                      index of this menu line(count starts from 0) On
                      the picture index is 1</p>
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    <i>Since I can't access Grub menu I can't do any of the following
      except edit grub setup file, which I have not done because of
      above issue</i><br>
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                    2.      Select concrete Kernel</a></p>
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                  <li>
                    <p>Select concrete kernel for boot and also memorize
                      index of this menu line(count starts from 0) On
                      the picture index of chosen Kernel is 2</p>
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                    <p>Start system. This action is for one boot on
                      concrete kernel. If you want to start from
                      concrete Kernel all time you should do next steps:</p>
                  </li>
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                <p>4.1. Open and edit GRUB setup file:</p>
                <pre><code>sudo nano /etc/default/grub
</code></pre>
                <p>4.2. Find line GRUB_DEFAULT=...(by default
                  GRUB_DEFAULT=0) and sets in quotes menu path to
                  concrete Kernel(Remember menu indexes from steps 2 and
                  3). In my system first index was 1 and second was 2. I
                  set in to GRUB_DEFAULT</p>
                <pre><code>GRUB_DEFAULT="1>2"
</code></pre>
                <p>Save file.</p>
                <p>4.3. Update GRUB information for apply changes:</p>
                <pre><code>sudo update-grub
</code></pre>
                <p>4.4. After reboot you automatically boot on Kernel by
                  chosen menu path. An example on my machine 1 -> 2</p>
                <p>4.5. Check Kernel version after reboot:</p>
                <p>uname -r</p>
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              <div style="margin:0 0 10px 0;"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday,
                April 18, 2019 at 10:54 PM<br>
                <b>From:</b> "Brian O'Keefe"
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:okeefe@cybermesa.com"><okeefe@cybermesa.com></a><br>
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                  <p>Thanks again,</p>
                  <p>Tried them all to no avail</p>
                  <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/15/19 6:33 PM,
                    Harold Furbiter wrote:</div>
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                        <div>You could try:</div>
                        <div>sudo /sbin/init 6   (see if it reboots)</div>
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                  reboots to a blank, colored screen, no log in
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                        <div>sudo /sbin/init 1   (see if it give you a
                          prompt)</div>
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                  Gives me a rescue mode prompt that I cannot use as I
                  can't enter any of the options
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                        <div>maybe su to root and try init</div>
                        <div>sudo su - root  (you need '- root' to
                          insure your path is root's)</div>
                        <div> </div>
                        <div>you might try booting from a older or
                          oldest kernel:</div>
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                    </div>
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                  Can't access the grub menu for older kernels. Using
                  shift key during boot just gives me the blank colored
                  screen
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                        <div>dpkg -l | grep linux-image | awk
                          '{print$2}'</div>
                        <div>
                          <div> </div>
                          <div>Gives you a list of bootable kernels
                            available on your system. Try booting from
                            the oldest version.</div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
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                  </blockquote>
                  Is there a way to reboot from a terminal with an older
                  kernel as I cannot access the grub menu. this is a
                  recent issue, within the last couple of weeks.
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                          <div>Cheers,</div>
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                            <div style="margin: 0 0 10.0px 0;"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday,
                              April 13, 2019 at 8:32 AM<br>
                              <b>From:</b> "Harold Furbiter" <a
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                              <b>To:</b> <a
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                              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [nmglug] Weirdness</div>
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                                  <div>Then you have a corrupt kernel.
                                    On boot try booting to an older
                                    kernel.</div>
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                                    <div><a
href="https://askubuntu.com/questions/82140/how-can-i-boot-with-an-older-kernel-version"
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                                      <div style="margin: 0 0 10.0px 0;"><b>Sent:</b> Friday,
                                        April 12, 2019 at 6:15 PM<br>
                                        <b>From:</b> "Brian O'Keefe" <a
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                                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [nmglug]
                                        Weirdness</div>
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                                          <p>Thanks for the input
                                            Harold,</p>
                                          <p>Same result, just hangs on
                                            the splash screen. Can't
                                            logout, esc. key does
                                            nothing, can't switch to a
                                            console. Just have to do a
                                            hard shutdown.</p>
                                          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On
                                            4/11/19 8:59 PM, Harold
                                            Furbiter wrote:</div>
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                                              <div>Out of curiousity
                                                have you tried init 0 ?
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                                                      0 0 10.0px 0;"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday,
                                                      April 10, 2019 at
                                                      11:26 AM<br>
                                                      <b>From:</b> "Brian
                                                      O'Keefe" <a
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href="mailto:okeefe@cybermesa.com"
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                                                      <b>Subject:</b> [nmglug]
                                                      Weirdness</div>
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                                                        <p>Hi All,</p>
                                                        <p>Since I may
                                                          not make
                                                          meeting (niece
                                                          visiting and
                                                          Thurs. is her
                                                          last day) I'm
                                                          putting my
                                                          issue out for
                                                          comment and
                                                          hopefully
                                                          answers. As
                                                          many of you
                                                          know I used to
                                                          updgrade
                                                          instead of
                                                          clean installs
                                                          and did that
                                                          since Ubuntu
                                                          6.04. I had
                                                          also added
                                                          many apps from
                                                          third parties
                                                          and also
                                                          modified many,
                                                          many conf
                                                          files to keep
                                                          things
                                                          working. I had
                                                          a meltdown and
                                                          lost much of
                                                          my data but
                                                          following a
                                                          partial
                                                          recovery,
                                                          thanks to a
                                                          certain group
                                                          member, I
                                                          installed a
                                                          clean version
                                                          of 18.04 onto
                                                          a new 1TB SSD.
                                                          I have ot
                                                          tinkered at
                                                          all with 3rd
                                                          party software
                                                          nor modified
                                                          any conf files
                                                          or been a bad
                                                          boy in any
                                                          way!</p>
                                                        <p>My issue ids
                                                          that I cannot
                                                          shut down my
                                                          box in anyway
                                                          other than a
                                                          hard shutdown.
                                                          I also cannot
                                                          restart it. I
                                                          have tried the
                                                          GUI option as
                                                          well as
                                                          switching to
                                                          text mode and
                                                          using "sudo
                                                          shutdown now"
                                                          or "sudo
                                                          restart now".
                                                          In those cases
                                                          I get the
                                                          splash screen
                                                          with the
                                                          "traveling
                                                          lights" and
                                                          Unutu but it
                                                          hangs there.
                                                          The traveling
                                                          dots hang on
                                                          the first dot
                                                          of the splash
                                                          screen and
                                                          nothing
                                                          happens. I had
                                                          hoped that
                                                          text mode
                                                          would give
                                                          give me an
                                                          indication of
                                                          the issues but
                                                          I can't stay
                                                          in that mode
                                                          for some
                                                          reason. </p>
                                                        <p>Thanks for
                                                          any help.</p>
                                                        <p>Brian</p>
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