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<p>PS Jared,</p>
<p>I had a OS meltdown about a year ago and one of the wonderful
NMGLUgers managed to save most of my data. That was when I
switched drives ("old" one was a 500GB SSD) and instead of using
dd and cloning the drive I took Ted's and others' advice and did a
clean install as my config files for many things had been modified
over and over as well as having 3rd party software installed, etc.
I spent countless hours propping up a 6.04 Ubuntu all the way to
16.10 on upgrades only. that's 10 yrs! I also had some strange
config files deep in the OS that were messing with my google
stuff. I found an entry that looked like a virus or tap of some
kind. I fixed that file and google returned and did other quirky
bits. I believe that was something the "law" did to me, as was
done to many, many people who were also at Standing Rock. All the
phones were tapped and I was uploading pix, etc. from both my
phone and laptop to the web, facebook, etc. Call me paranoid but
it was ubiquitous and all people had major digital oddities occur.
I believe that's what hosed my last drive's OS but as I wrote,
most of my data was saved. Now that's not to say that there are
bugs in some of my data that shouldn't be there....</p>
<p>And another thank you!<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/23/19 10:15 AM, Alucard wrote:<br>
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Hi Brian,<br>
<br>
My 2¢.<br>
<br>
If my OS was that hosed, I would just start over. There is a point
where the rabbit hole gets too deep to climb out of.<br>
<br>
Have you looked at the hard drive to see if that HDD/SSD is
failing?<br>
<br>
sudo apt install smartmontools<br>
sudo smartctl --all /dev/sda<br>
<br>
If you have never looked at SMART data, then you will want to
probably send us/me the output. You will probably be better off
doing this from a live USB/CD. If you want a GUI for
smartmontools, look at GSmartControl.<br>
<br>
If the drive is failing, then fixing the OS is a moot point. <br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Jared <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/22/19 9:45 PM, Brian O'Keefe
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<p>Thanks Harold. Responses inserted for ease and clarity. Many
thanks again<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/22/19 9:23 PM, Harold Furbiter
wrote:<br>
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<div>Here is a receipe for boot from an older kernel, and
how to set it to a default.</div>
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<p>If you have a few Kernels in your system you can
set manually what Kernel version will start:</p>
<ol>
<li>
<p>Reboot your PC with pressed Shift button for
display GRUB after BIOS will start. You will
see something like: <a
href="https://i.stack.imgur.com/sSCzp.png"
rel="nofollow noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">GRUB start page</a></p>
</li>
</ol>
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<i>I have booted into older kernels or safe mode this way in the
pas. Now I cannot reboot as all that comes up is the them
color screen, no login, nothing. So I have to do a hard
shutdown. I do not get a Grub menu holding down shift key upon
starting. I get a flat theme color screen. Nothing more</i><br>
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<ol>
<li>
<p>Select "Advanced options for Ubuntu" and
memorize index of this menu line(count starts
from 0) On the picture index is 1</p>
</li>
</ol>
</div>
</div>
</div>
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<i>Since I can't access Grub menu I can't do any of the
following except edit grub setup file, which I have not done
because of above issue</i><br>
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2. Select concrete Kernel</a></p>
<ol start="3">
<li>
<p>Select concrete kernel for boot and also
memorize index of this menu line(count starts
from 0) On the picture index of chosen Kernel
is 2</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Start system. This action is for one boot on
concrete kernel. If you want to start from
concrete Kernel all time you should do next
steps:</p>
</li>
</ol>
<p>4.1. Open and edit GRUB setup file:</p>
<pre><code>sudo nano /etc/default/grub
</code></pre>
<p>4.2. Find line GRUB_DEFAULT=...(by default
GRUB_DEFAULT=0) and sets in quotes menu path to
concrete Kernel(Remember menu indexes from steps 2
and 3). In my system first index was 1 and second
was 2. I set in to GRUB_DEFAULT</p>
<pre><code>GRUB_DEFAULT="1>2"
</code></pre>
<p>Save file.</p>
<p>4.3. Update GRUB information for apply changes:</p>
<pre><code>sudo update-grub
</code></pre>
<p>4.4. After reboot you automatically boot on
Kernel by chosen menu path. An example on my
machine 1 -> 2</p>
<p>4.5. Check Kernel version after reboot:</p>
<p>uname -r</p>
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<div style="margin:0 0 10px 0;"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday,
April 18, 2019 at 10:54 PM<br>
<b>From:</b> "Brian O'Keefe" <a
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<p>Thanks again,</p>
<p>Tried them all to no avail</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/15/19 6:33 PM,
Harold Furbiter wrote:</div>
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12.0px;">
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<div>You could try:</div>
<div>sudo /sbin/init 6 (see if it reboots)</div>
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reboots to a blank, colored screen, no log in
<blockquote>
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12.0px;">
<div>
<div>sudo /sbin/init 1 (see if it give you
a prompt)</div>
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Gives me a rescue mode prompt that I cannot use as
I can't enter any of the options
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<div>
<div> </div>
<div>maybe su to root and try init</div>
<div>sudo su - root (you need '- root' to
insure your path is root's)</div>
<div> </div>
<div>you might try booting from a older or
oldest kernel:</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
Can't access the grub menu for older kernels.
Using shift key during boot just gives me the
blank colored screen
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<div style="font-family: Verdana;font-size:
12.0px;">
<div>
<div> </div>
<div>dpkg -l | grep linux-image | awk
'{print$2}'</div>
<div>
<div> </div>
<div>Gives you a list of bootable kernels
available on your system. Try booting
from the oldest version.</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
Is there a way to reboot from a terminal with an
older kernel as I cannot access the grub menu.
this is a recent issue, within the last couple of
weeks.
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<div> </div>
<div>Cheers,</div>
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<div style="margin: 0 0 10.0px 0;"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday,
April 13, 2019 at 8:32 AM<br>
<b>From:</b> "Harold Furbiter" <a
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<div>Then you have a corrupt
kernel. On boot try booting to
an older kernel.</div>
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<div><a
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<div style="margin: 0 0 10.0px
0;"><b>Sent:</b> Friday,
April 12, 2019 at 6:15 PM<br>
<b>From:</b> "Brian O'Keefe"
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [nmglug]
Weirdness</div>
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<p>Thanks for the input
Harold,</p>
<p>Same result, just hangs
on the splash screen.
Can't logout, esc. key
does nothing, can't
switch to a console.
Just have to do a hard
shutdown.</p>
<div
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4/11/19 8:59 PM, Harold
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<div>Out of curiousity
have you tried init
0 ?
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style="margin:
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April 10, 2019
at 11:26 AM<br>
<b>From:</b> "Brian
O'Keefe" <a
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<b>Subject:</b> [nmglug]
Weirdness</div>
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<p>Hi All,</p>
<p>Since I may
not make
meeting (niece
visiting and
Thurs. is her
last day) I'm
putting my
issue out for
comment and
hopefully
answers. As
many of you
know I used to
updgrade
instead of
clean installs
and did that
since Ubuntu
6.04. I had
also added
many apps from
third parties
and also
modified many,
many conf
files to keep
things
working. I had
a meltdown and
lost much of
my data but
following a
partial
recovery,
thanks to a
certain group
member, I
installed a
clean version
of 18.04 onto
a new 1TB SSD.
I have ot
tinkered at
all with 3rd
party software
nor modified
any conf files
or been a bad
boy in any
way!</p>
<p>My issue
ids that I
cannot shut
down my box in
anyway other
than a hard
shutdown. I
also cannot
restart it. I
have tried the
GUI option as
well as
switching to
text mode and
using "sudo
shutdown now"
or "sudo
restart now".
In those cases
I get the
splash screen
with the
"traveling
lights" and
Unutu but it
hangs there.
The traveling
dots hang on
the first dot
of the splash
screen and
nothing
happens. I had
hoped that
text mode
would give
give me an
indication of
the issues but
I can't stay
in that mode
for some
reason. </p>
<p>Thanks for
any help.</p>
<p>Brian</p>
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