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    <p>Sorry for the stream of emails. An FYI, I installed and ran
      gsmartcontrol which returned no errors and pronounced the SSD
      healthy.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/23/19 10:15 AM, Alucard wrote:<br>
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      Hi Brian,<br>
      <br>
      My 2¢.<br>
      <br>
      If my OS was that hosed, I would just start over. There is a point
      where the rabbit hole gets too deep to climb out of.<br>
      <br>
      Have you looked at the hard drive to see if that HDD/SSD is
      failing?<br>
      <br>
      sudo apt install smartmontools<br>
      sudo smartctl --all /dev/sda<br>
      <br>
      If you have never looked at SMART data, then you will want to
      probably send us/me the output. You will probably be better off
      doing this from a live USB/CD. If you want a GUI for
      smartmontools, look at GSmartControl.<br>
      <br>
      If the drive is failing, then fixing the OS is a moot point. <br>
      <br>
      Regards,<br>
      <br>
      Jared <br>
      <br>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/22/19 9:45 PM, Brian O'Keefe
        wrote:<br>
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        <p>Thanks Harold. Responses inserted for ease and clarity. Many
          thanks again<br>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/22/19 9:23 PM, Harold Furbiter
          wrote:<br>
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              <div>Here is a receipe for boot from an older kernel, and
                how to set it to a default.</div>
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                    <p>If you have a few Kernels in your system you can
                      set manually what Kernel version will start:</p>
                    <ol>
                      <li>
                        <p>Reboot your PC with pressed Shift button for
                          display GRUB after BIOS will start. You will
                          see something like: <a
                            href="https://i.stack.imgur.com/sSCzp.png"
                            rel="nofollow noreferrer"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">GRUB start page</a></p>
                      </li>
                    </ol>
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        <i>I have booted into older kernels or safe mode this way in the
          pas. Now I cannot reboot as all that comes up is the them
          color screen, no login, nothing. So I have to do a hard
          shutdown. I do not get a Grub menu holding down shift key upon
          starting. I get a flat theme color screen. Nothing more</i><br>
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                      <li>
                        <p>Select "Advanced options for Ubuntu" and
                          memorize index of this menu line(count starts
                          from 0) On the picture index is 1</p>
                      </li>
                    </ol>
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        <i>Since I can't access Grub menu I can't do any of the
          following except edit grub setup file, which I have not done
          because of above issue</i><br>
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                    <p><a href="https://i.stack.imgur.com/yYhnM.png"
                        rel="nofollow noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">     
                        2.      Select concrete Kernel</a></p>
                    <ol start="3">
                      <li>
                        <p>Select concrete kernel for boot and also
                          memorize index of this menu line(count starts
                          from 0) On the picture index of chosen Kernel
                          is 2</p>
                      </li>
                      <li>
                        <p>Start system. This action is for one boot on
                          concrete kernel. If you want to start from
                          concrete Kernel all time you should do next
                          steps:</p>
                      </li>
                    </ol>
                    <p>4.1. Open and edit GRUB setup file:</p>
                    <pre><code>sudo nano /etc/default/grub
</code></pre>
                    <p>4.2. Find line GRUB_DEFAULT=...(by default
                      GRUB_DEFAULT=0) and sets in quotes menu path to
                      concrete Kernel(Remember menu indexes from steps 2
                      and 3). In my system first index was 1 and second
                      was 2. I set in to GRUB_DEFAULT</p>
                    <pre><code>GRUB_DEFAULT="1>2"
</code></pre>
                    <p>Save file.</p>
                    <p>4.3. Update GRUB information for apply changes:</p>
                    <pre><code>sudo update-grub
</code></pre>
                    <p>4.4. After reboot you automatically boot on
                      Kernel by chosen menu path. An example on my
                      machine 1 -> 2</p>
                    <p>4.5. Check Kernel version after reboot:</p>
                    <p>uname -r</p>
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                  <div style="margin:0 0 10px 0;"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday,
                    April 18, 2019 at 10:54 PM<br>
                    <b>From:</b> "Brian O'Keefe" <a
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                    <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
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                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [nmglug] Weirdness</div>
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                      <p>Thanks again,</p>
                      <p>Tried them all to no avail</p>
                      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/15/19 6:33 PM,
                        Harold Furbiter wrote:</div>
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                            <div>You could try:</div>
                            <div>sudo /sbin/init 6   (see if it reboots)</div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </blockquote>
                      reboots to a blank, colored screen, no log in
                      <blockquote>
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                            <div>sudo /sbin/init 1   (see if it give you
                              a prompt)</div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </blockquote>
                      Gives me a rescue mode prompt that I cannot use as
                      I can't enter any of the options
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                            <div> </div>
                            <div>maybe su to root and try init</div>
                            <div>sudo su - root  (you need '- root' to
                              insure your path is root's)</div>
                            <div> </div>
                            <div>you might try booting from a older or
                              oldest kernel:</div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </blockquote>
                      Can't access the grub menu for older kernels.
                      Using shift key during boot just gives me the
                      blank colored screen
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                            <div> </div>
                            <div>dpkg -l | grep linux-image | awk
                              '{print$2}'</div>
                            <div>
                              <div> </div>
                              <div>Gives you a list of bootable kernels
                                available on your system. Try booting
                                from the oldest version.</div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </blockquote>
                      Is there a way to reboot from a terminal with an
                      older kernel as I cannot access the grub menu.
                      this is a recent issue, within the last couple of
                      weeks.
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                              <div>Cheers,</div>
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                                <div style="margin: 0 0 10.0px 0;"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday,
                                  April 13, 2019 at 8:32 AM<br>
                                  <b>From:</b> "Harold Furbiter" <a
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                                  <b>To:</b> <a
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                                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [nmglug] Weirdness</div>
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                                      <div>Then you have a corrupt
                                        kernel. On boot try booting to
                                        an older kernel.</div>
                                      <div> </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div><a
href="https://askubuntu.com/questions/82140/how-can-i-boot-with-an-older-kernel-version"
                                            target="_blank"
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                                            April 12, 2019 at 6:15 PM<br>
                                            <b>From:</b> "Brian O'Keefe"
                                            <a
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href="mailto:okeefe@cybermesa.com"
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                                            <b>To:</b> <a
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                                            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [nmglug]
                                            Weirdness</div>
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                                              <p>Thanks for the input
                                                Harold,</p>
                                              <p>Same result, just hangs
                                                on the splash screen.
                                                Can't logout, esc. key
                                                does nothing, can't
                                                switch to a console.
                                                Just have to do a hard
                                                shutdown.</p>
                                              <div
                                                class="moz-cite-prefix">On
                                                4/11/19 8:59 PM, Harold
                                                Furbiter wrote:</div>
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                                                  <div>Out of curiousity
                                                    have you tried init
                                                    0 ?
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                                                          April 10, 2019
                                                          at 11:26 AM<br>
                                                          <b>From:</b> "Brian
                                                          O'Keefe" <a
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href="mailto:okeefe@cybermesa.com"
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                                                          <b>To:</b> "NMGLUG.org
                                                          mailing list"
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                                                          <b>Subject:</b> [nmglug]
                                                          Weirdness</div>
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                                                          <p>Hi All,</p>
                                                          <p>Since I may
                                                          not make
                                                          meeting (niece
                                                          visiting and
                                                          Thurs. is her
                                                          last day) I'm
                                                          putting my
                                                          issue out for
                                                          comment and
                                                          hopefully
                                                          answers. As
                                                          many of you
                                                          know I used to
                                                          updgrade
                                                          instead of
                                                          clean installs
                                                          and did that
                                                          since Ubuntu
                                                          6.04. I had
                                                          also added
                                                          many apps from
                                                          third parties
                                                          and also
                                                          modified many,
                                                          many conf
                                                          files to keep
                                                          things
                                                          working. I had
                                                          a meltdown and
                                                          lost much of
                                                          my data but
                                                          following a
                                                          partial
                                                          recovery,
                                                          thanks to a
                                                          certain group
                                                          member, I
                                                          installed a
                                                          clean version
                                                          of 18.04 onto
                                                          a new 1TB SSD.
                                                          I have ot
                                                          tinkered at
                                                          all with 3rd
                                                          party software
                                                          nor modified
                                                          any conf files
                                                          or been a bad
                                                          boy in any
                                                          way!</p>
                                                          <p>My issue
                                                          ids that I
                                                          cannot shut
                                                          down my box in
                                                          anyway other
                                                          than a hard
                                                          shutdown. I
                                                          also cannot
                                                          restart it. I
                                                          have tried the
                                                          GUI option as
                                                          well as
                                                          switching to
                                                          text mode and
                                                          using "sudo
                                                          shutdown now"
                                                          or "sudo
                                                          restart now".
                                                          In those cases
                                                          I get the
                                                          splash screen
                                                          with the
                                                          "traveling
                                                          lights" and
                                                          Unutu but it
                                                          hangs there.
                                                          The traveling
                                                          dots hang on
                                                          the first dot
                                                          of the splash
                                                          screen and
                                                          nothing
                                                          happens. I had
                                                          hoped that
                                                          text mode
                                                          would give
                                                          give me an
                                                          indication of
                                                          the issues but
                                                          I can't stay
                                                          in that mode
                                                          for some
                                                          reason. </p>
                                                          <p>Thanks for
                                                          any help.</p>
                                                          <p>Brian</p>
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