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<p>Thanks for the help. Makes perfect sense and it means that an
upgrade that was years behind schedule will happen.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Brian<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/23/19 6:47 PM,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:leopoldo@maciasnetwork.com">leopoldo@maciasnetwork.com</a> wrote:<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Brian,
On Wed, 2019-10-23 at 15:44 -0600, Brian O'Keefe wrote:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Thanks Mars. I tried it and it failed.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">$ curl --user-agent "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6;
rv:48.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/48.0"
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.liveauctioneers.com">https://www.liveauctioneers.com</a>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">curl: (35) error:1407742E:SSL
routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:tlsv1
alert protocol version
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">This line is very interesting. This line tells me that the server that
is hosting the "new" liveauctioneers.com website does not support TLS
version 1. This makes sense since now-a-days, websites (for security
purposes) are only supporting TLSv2 and TLSv3. I'm not an expert on TLS
handshakes but this might be the reason your wife can access the
classic site (it probably supports the old encryption method of TLS
version 1). So, I stand corrected, in this case, the OS might have to
be updated to update the ssl libraries. In linux, this can be done by
updating the openssl version to one that supports TLS v2 and v3, but on
Mac, I don't think that's possible. Other NMLUGers might know of a way
but updating the OS will probably fix this issue (I apologize).
Updating the OS will update the SSL libraries to one that can support
TLSv2/3 and that will allow access.
There are openssl commands that can be run on linux to show what TLS
versions are supported by the site but I don't know if it's worth
trying to get this done on MACBook. So, I think you are on the right
path to update the OS.
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My wife can get to the "classic" liveauctioneers page but if she
clicks
sign in or sign up the next page is the 403 error. I tried changing
the
domain name as there is a "classic" site that I can access and so
can
she until she tries signing in. Tried several variants and most
worked
in a terminal but none of the commands opened a web page. Sorry for
sending all of this output.
Thanks and here goes. Now it's just an experiment as the MB Air is
going
to Dotfoil (wife is fed up). There are many thousands of lines of
code
beyond this but I wanted to show that at least in a terminal the
site
was reached.
$ curl --user-agent "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6;
rv:48.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/48.0"<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://classic.liveauctioneers">https://classic.liveauctioneers</a>.
com
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML+RDFa 1.0//EN"<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-rdfa-1.dtd">"http://www.w3.
org/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-rdfa-1.dtd"</a>>;
<html xmlns=<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">"http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"</a>" xmlns:fb=<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.facebook.com/2008/fbml">"http://www.fac
ebook.com/2008/fbml"</a>>
<head>
<title>Bid in Online Auctions - Live
Auctioneers</title>
<meta name="robots" content="noindex, nofollow">
<link rel="canonical" href=<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://classic.liveauctioneers.com">"https://classic.liveauctioneers.com"</a>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap=""> <link rel="next" href=<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://classic.liveauctioneers.com/browse/page2">"https://classic.liveauctioneers.com/brows
e/page2"</a>>;
<link rel="alternate" media="only screen and (max-width: 640px)"
href=<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://m.liveauctioneers.com">"https://m.liveauctioneers.com"</a>>;
<meta name="description" content="Get in on the auction -- bid
LIVE online on art, antiques, jewelry and collectibles. Find online
auctions from around the world at Live Auctioneers." />
<meta name="google-site-verification"
content="cV8cXXQi_UWIpJ6vc9a0DhF4AJD4HElapx9KBROkGCk" />
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;
charset=iso-8859-1" />
<link type="text/css" rel="stylesheet"
href="/live_styles/v2171852186/live_styles.css" /> <link
rel="shortcut icon" href=<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://classic.liveauctioneers.com/live_design/images/favicon.png">"https://classic.liveauctioneers.com/live_de
sign/images/favicon.png"</a>>;
<link href=<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Open+Sans:700,300,400&subset=latin,cyrillic-ext">"https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=
Open+Sans:700,300,400&subset=latin,cyrillic-ext"</a>" rel="stylesheet"
type="text/css">
<script type="text/javascript"
src="/live_scripts/v2171852186/jquery-1.7.2.min.js"></script>
<script type="text/javascript"
src="/live_scripts/v2171852186/jquery-ui-
1.10.3.custom.min.js"></script>
<script type="text/javascript"
src="/scripts/v2171852186/la.js"></script>
<script type="text/javascript"
src="/scripts/v2171852186/facebox/facebox.js"></script>
<script type="text/javascript"
src="/live_scripts/v2171852186/jquery.placeholder.min.js"></script>
<script type="text/javascript"
src="/live_scripts/v2171852186/scripts.js"></script>
<script type="text/javascript"
src="/scripts/v2171852186/lib/pv2/lib.js"></script>
<script type="text/javascript"
src="/scripts/v2171852186/lib/pv2/main.js"></script>
<script type="text/javascript" src=<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://snapabug.appspot.com/snapabug.js">"https://snapabug.appspot
.com/snapabug.js"</a>" async></script>
<script type="text/javascript"
src="/scripts/lib/jquery.dotdotdot.js"></script>
<script type="text/javascript">
DEFAULT_HOST = 'classic.liveauctioneers.com';
DEFAULT_PROTOCOL = 'https';
DEFAULT_SSL_PROTOCOL = 'https';
RESOURCE_HOST = 'classic.liveauctioneers.com';
RESOURCE_PROTOCOL = 'https://';
if( typeof bidderID == 'undefined' ){
var bidderID = null;
}
dataLayer = [];
GTM_userInfo = [];
function loadAuctionDate(date){
var hVal='';
var cVal = '';
var hId = document.getElementById('auctHouseId') ==
null ? 'None' : document.getElementById('auctHouseId').value;
var cId = document.getElementById('auctCId') == null
? 'None' : document.getElementById('auctCId').value;
if(hId!='None'){
hVal='/seller/'+hId
}else{
if(cId!='None')
cVal = '/auctions-in-'+cId
}
if( date == 'All' ){
newurl = '/browse'+hVal+cVal;
querydata =
getQueryData(document.location.href);
if (querydata['view'] == 'list') {
newurl = appendQueryPair(newurl, 'view',
'list');
}
window.location = newurl;
return true;
}
var dashorslash = ( hVal=='' && cVal == '' ) ? '/' :
'-';
newurl = '/browse'+hVal+cVal+dashorslash+date;
querydata = getQueryData(document.location.href);
if (querydata['view'] == 'list') {
newurl = appendQueryPair(newurl, 'view',
'list');
}
goToUrl(newurl);
}
</script>
<script
type="text/javascript"
src="/live_scripts/v2171852186/jquery.vticker.js"></script>
<script type="text/javascript"
src="/live_scripts/v2171852186/slickcustomscroll.js"></script>
<script type="text/javascript"
src="/live_scripts/v2171852186/jquery.jcarousel.min.js"></script>
<script type="text/javascript">
function initTicker(){
var $scroller = $("#scroller");
$scroller.vTicker('init', {height: 40, showItems: 1});
$(".next").click(function(event){
event.preventDefault();
$scroller.vTicker('next', {animate:true});
});
}
$(function(){
setTimeout(initTicker,1000);
});
</script>
<meta property="fb:app_id"
content="143214215739939"/>
<script>
function loadAuction(){
var hId = document.getElementById('auctHouseId').value;
var cId = document.getElementById('auctCId').value;
var date = document.getElementById('dateSelect').innerHTML;
var da = date.split('-');
var dVal='/dateSel'+da[2]+'-'+da[1]+'-'+da[0];
var hVal='';
var cVal = '';
var firstDate = document.getElementById('firstDate').innerHTML;
var fDate = firstDate.split('-');
var fVal='/fDate'+fDate[2]+'-'+fDate[1]+'-'+fDate[0];
if(hId!='None')
hVal='/hId'+hId
if(cId!='None')
cVal = '/cId-'+cId
window.location='/browse'+hVal+cVal+dVal+fVal;
}
function highlight_current(obj, li, index, state){
if(index<0 || index>(0+6) || 0){
$('#highlight_sel, #highlight_sel_dragger').css('display',
'none');
} else {
highlight(0)
var delay = ( state=='init' ) ? 0 : 400;
setTimeout(function(){$('#highlight_sel,
#highlight_sel_dragger').css('display', 'block');}, delay);
}
}
function highlight(sel_date){
var no_days = 7;
var mod=sel_date%no_days;
var xpos = 0;
switch (mod)
{
case 0:
xpos= -10;
break;
case 1:
xpos= 60;
break;
case 2:
xpos= 125;
break;
case 3:
xpos= 190;
break;
case 4:
xpos= 255;
break;
case 5:
xpos= 320;
break;
case 6:
xpos= 385;
break;
}
document.getElementById('highlight_sel').style.left= xpos +
'px';
document.getElementById('highlight_sel_dragger').style.left=
xpos + 'px';
}
function loadHouseAuctions(){
var hId = document.getElementById('auctHouseId').value;
switch (hId) {
case 'showall':
case 'None':
case 'none':
newurl = '/';
break;
default:
newurl = '/browse/seller/'+hId;
}
querydata = getQueryData(document.location.href);
if (querydata['view'] == 'list') {
newurl = appendQueryPair(newurl, 'view', 'list');
}
goToUrl(newurl);
}
function loadCountryAuctions(){
var cId = document.getElementById('auctCId').value;
switch (cId) {
case 'showall':
case 'None':
case 'none':
newurl = '/';
break;
default:
newurl = '/browse/auctions-in-'+cId;
}
querydata = getQueryData(document.location.href);
if (querydata['view'] == 'list') {
newurl = appendQueryPair(newurl, 'view', 'list');
}
goToUrl(newurl);
}
function prevNextDate(val){
var firstDate = document.getElementById('firstDate').innerHTML;
var fDate = firstDate.split('-');
var hVal='';
var cVal = '';
var hId = document.getElementById('auctHouseId').value;
var cId = document.getElementById('auctCId').value;
if(hId!='None')
hVal='/hId'+hId
if(cId!='None')
cVal = '/cId-'+cId
window.location='/browse/fDate'+fDate[2]+'-'+fDate[1]+'-
'+fDate[0]+hVal+cVal+'/'+val;
}
function pageNavigate(pageNum,archiveflg){
var date = document.getElementById('dateSelect').innerHTML;
var hId = document.getElementById('auctHouseId').value;
var cId = document.getElementById('auctCId').value;
var da = date.split('-');
var hVal='';
var cVal = '';
if(hId!='None')
hVal='/hId'+hId
if(cId!='None')
cVal = '/cId-'+cId
var dVal='/'+date;
if(archiveflg == 0){
window.location='/browse/page'+pageNum+hVal+cVal;
}else if (archiveflg == 1){
window.location='/browse/page'+pageNum+hVal+cVal+dVal;
}
}
function initJcarousel(){
try{
if( 1 )
$('#highlight_sel').css('display', 'block');
$('#mycarousel').css('display', 'block');
jQuery('#mycarousel').jcarousel({
start: 0,
itemVisibleInCallback: {
onBeforeAnimation: highlight_current
}
});
}catch(e){}
}
jQuery(document).ready(function() {
initJcarousel();
});
</script>
<script type="text/javascript">
// <![CDATA[
jQuery(document).ready(function($) {
if (window.location.hash == '#signup-1' ||
window.location.hash == '#setup') window.location.hash = '';
if(
location.search.indexOf('openlogin=1') > -1 ) {
$('#loginid').trigger('click');
}
/*if ($('.placeholder').length > 0) {
$('.placeholder').css('color',
'#009ddb');
}*/
if (1 == 2) {
window.location.hash = 'setup';
jQuery.facebox({
ajax: '//classic.liveauctioneers.com/sign-
up/?url=/&signup_step=1'
});
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