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<p>All good Tom. Thanks<br>
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<p>Not sure about working directly from an optical drive to a
thumb drive as I haven't tried that for maybe two years. But
what I do know for sure is that I have several different distros
installed to USB sticks, each of which boot and run just fine on
multiple machines directly from the USB stick, no problems with
GRUB.<br>
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<p>*Usually* I create these in two stages. First, I download the
distro iso file, verify checksum (and often signatures) and then
dd copy the iso to a cheap USB 2.0 drive to create an
installation device, aka a 'bootable USB' or 'live USB'.
Second, I reboot the computer into this new 'live USB' and then
use the distro's provided installation program to install
permanently to a better quality USB 3.0 drive--this to create
the final "live USB with persistence". During the install from
the first USB to the second USB there is most often an explicit
opportunity to specify where GRUB should be installed. This of
course is a new GRUB and it should be installed to the second
USB along with everything else. Also, when booting into a live
USB or the new permanent installation on the second USB for the
first time, the host computer boot order device precedence must
be reset so that UEFI or BIOS sees the USB before it sees the
hard drive and boots into that. Otherwise, you have to
interrupt the boot process by hitting F12 or whatever each time
you want to boot into the USB, which is annoying.</p>
<p>Probably you already know most or all of the above possibly
better than I. But I take it from your comment below that there
is still something or other that one of us is missing. Also,
I'm going into it a little because the subject happens to be a
current fetish of mine and I've been trying to develop my
knowledge a bit. So I'll continue.<br>
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<p>When making a "live USB with persistence" there are about a
million ways to install the OS and to configure partitions, home
directories, GRUB, UEFI/BIOS, etc., -- all of which usually
confuse the daylights out of me so that I usually opt for
whatever appears to be the most painless default nuke-n-pave
option available and leave it at that. But there are two points
about which I always make sure I am absolutely lucid because to
do otherwise is really dangerous. The first is that I am very
certain I am installing everything to the USB stick and not to
my host computer hard drive so that I don't destroy my existing
system. The second is that I know whether the new installation
is fully encrypted so that I don't inadvertently expose any
sensitive data or personal information to theft. It is
altogether too easy to lose or misplace a USB stick. </p>
<p>A couple of months ago Jared of abqlug.com, who was aware of my
USB and antiX fetishes, asked me if I might try to write an
article for the website because I suggested to him that I
thought using Linux installed to USB sticks might be a great way
to introduce noobs and wannabes. Here it is:</p>
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href="https://www.abqlug.com/uncategorized/getting-started-with-an-mx-or-antix-linux-writable-liveusb/#fromwin"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.abqlug.com/uncategorized/getting-started-with-an-mx-or-antix-linux-writable-liveusb/#fromwin</a></p>
<p>A bit overwrought here and there but gathers in one place a lot
of information that might otherwise be hard to find in one place
when someone wants it. If anyone is so inclined please have a
look and tell me what you think.<br>
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<p>Tom</p>
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<div dir="ltr">I've got a copy of Slax on a thumb drive and have
used various live media distros on a flash drive to install
Linux on machines that didn't have optical drives (or had
optical drives that didn't work) but if you install from
optical media to a thumb drive then GRUB is gonna want to know
where that drive went every time you boot up the machine.</div>
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<p>Install to a USB stick. A 64 GB USB 3.0 SanDisk Ultra
Flair is ideal. $15 at Walmart. Weighs exactly 5
grams, same as a nickel. Great form factor and
mechanically solid: 3/16" x 7/16" x 1-1/4" and you can
keep it stashed in your pocket encrypted with all
essential records and files for use on multiple
machines. Great for testing and experimenting,
redundancy, extra space, cheap insurance, etc. Not that
I'm a fan of Walmart or that better deals can't be had,
but certainly cheaper and less hassle than another
computer to worry about.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks, I ran across it, as GNU/Linux OS,
a couple of days ago and was curious about it but I
don't currently have a machine I'm willing to use for
distro-hopping so I did no more than read about it.</div>
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at 11:36 AM Brian O'Keefe <<a
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<p>Hello All,</p>
<p>I was poking around and looking at a website
specifically re: Gnu and the Hurd OS. Hurd
doesn't really work much at all but there were 6
OSes listed that were certified FOSS and
approved by Stallman. They each used the linux
kernel. I downloaded PureOS and installed in as
a virtual machine (in the non-FOSS Vbox). After
a few tweaks it was up and running and I really
like it. I would migrate to it if I had a clue
how to keep everything. It's fast and clean, the
FOSS browser works perfectly. No issues with
sound nor anything else. It's Debian based so
its Gnome GUI is very familiar.</p>
<p>Just thought that I'd let you all know.</p>
<p>Ciao<br>
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