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    <p>Ubuntu 20.04, Mate DE. I have this issue but haven't tied it to
      resuming from suspend. I'll watch this more closely. The lock-ups
      come and go and sometimes I'll notice apps starting to slow and
      I'll kill them and that avoids the lock-up issue.</p>
    <p>"Frequently, upon inexplicably slow resumes from 'suspend', the
      open applications in a session seem to start locking up whereupon
      the only way to get to get everything working again is a hard
      power-key shutdown and a cold reboot."  </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/12/22 12:32PM, Tom Ashcraft wrote:<br>
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      <p>Debian 11 with Xfce desktop environment for the most part is a
        real pleasure.  But 'hibernate' is hopeless and 'suspend' also
        has significant problems.  New rules added per wiki.debian.org
        suggestions do not help.  After a cold restart the erratic
        'suspend' errors often disappear for a few hours but always come
        back.  Frequently, upon inexplicably slow resumes from
        'suspend', the open applications in a session seem to start
        locking up whereupon the only way to get to get everything
        working again is a hard power-key shutdown and a cold reboot.  <br>
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      <p>As an aside, Debian 11 also causes some new problems with an
        old Windows program I use under Wine, though I've been able to
        resolve these (annoyingly) by copying over the entire .wine
        directory from a prior Debian 10 installation.  I experience
        this issue under both Debian 11 Xfce and Debian 11 KDE
        environments.<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/12/22 08:35, Ted Pomeroy wrote:<br>
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          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">LeRoy &
            NMGLugers, 1) I suggest you keep power on overnight. If you
            suspend and power fails your ram image of work is lost. You
            can try hibernate, but there have been issues with Linux and
            hibernate. Hibernate puts the snapshot image of your work on
            the hard drive, but unless the resume is set to resume form
            the correct location you will have a failure.</div>
          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">My routine
            is to suspend during the day, if I go out or take an hour
            off for non-computer work. Over night I switch off after
            saving work and closing all apps. Your LXde is fine. I use
            Xfce4 or Mate, but the gui desktop is not the issue. I have
            found Mate much easier to manage after also finding the
            "extras" package for it and loading that. However, that just
            gives me a richer gui, did not help with suspend. <br>
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          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">I hope this
            helps. If not ask more questions. Thank you, Ted P<br>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 7:21
            AM Wayne <<a href="mailto:Wayne@tradetimer.com"
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            wrote:<br>
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            I have often heard that Linus can have problems with
            hibernation. Can you just 'Suspend' the system instead? That
            ssem to be less problematical, though even that can be iffy,
            depending on the laptop.<br>
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            On 3/11/22 8:02 PM, LeRoy Diener wrote:<br>
            > Hi NMGLUG folks,<br>
            > <br>
            > I'm having an issue recently that I hope I can get help
            with.<br>
            > It's on my Debian 11 system, updated.<br>
            > Recently, I've had problems when I leave the laptop
            overnight.<br>
            > When I stop, I click on Logout > Suspend, then the
            screen goes black and I close the lid. I expect that when I
            open the lid in the morning and enter my password, I should
            be back where I left off.<br>
            > <br>
            > When I've done this recently, it works sometimes.<br>
            > Other times, it crashes after the batteries run out of
            power in the middle of the night.<br>
            > Other times, it works, but I see a message in the
            morning "None of the screen lock tools ran successfully, the
            screen will not be locked. Do you still want to suspend the
            system?"<br>
            > Other times, it works, but I see a message in the
            morning "Authentication is required to hibernate the
            system."<br>
            > <br>
            > I have a setting in Power Manager to hibernate when
            inactive for one hour, so that's what I'm focusing on now.<br>
            > I found some helpful info in this link <a
href="https://askubuntu.com/questions/543921/authentication-required-before-suspend"
              rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://askubuntu.com/questions/543921/authentication-required-before-suspend</a><br>
            > I found the file
            /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.login1.policy<br>
            > In that file, I found this segment:<br>
            > <action id="org.freedesktop.login1.hibernate"><br>
            > <description gettext-domain="systemd">Hibernate
            the system</description><br>
            > <message gettext-domain="systemd">Authentication
            is required to hibernate the system.</message><br>
            > <defaults><br>
            > <allow_any>auth_admin_keep</allow_any><br>
            >
            <allow_inactive>auth_admin_keep</allow_inactive><br>
            > <allow_active>yes</allow_active><br>
            > </defaults><br>
            > </action><br>
            > <br>
            > Other info:<br>
            > I usually have the laptop plugged into an external
            monitor, and I usually have the power strip (which powers
            the external monitor and laptop) turned off overnight.<br>
            > <br>
            > Any ideas?<br>
            > <br>
            > Thanks in advance.<br>
            > LeRoy<br>
            > <br>
            > -- <br>
            > <br>
            > There is something glorious birthing within all of us.
            (New for 2021)<br>
            > I am the Love of God, no matter what.<br>
            > BSA<br>
            > LeRoy Diener<br>
            > 213-LEROYIZ<br>
            > 213-537-6949<br>
            > <a href="https://leroydiener.com" rel="noreferrer"
              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://leroydiener.com</a>
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              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://leroydiener.com/</a>><br>
            > <br>
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