<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
</head>
<body>
<p>Ubuntu 20.04, Mate DE. I have this issue but haven't tied it to
resuming from suspend. I'll watch this more closely. The lock-ups
come and go and sometimes I'll notice apps starting to slow and
I'll kill them and that avoids the lock-up issue.</p>
<p>"Frequently, upon inexplicably slow resumes from 'suspend', the
open applications in a session seem to start locking up whereupon
the only way to get to get everything working again is a hard
power-key shutdown and a cold reboot." </p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/12/22 12:32PM, Tom Ashcraft wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:710dadca-4d58-568b-cd9a-c3d3b17726f2@comcast.net">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
<p>Debian 11 with Xfce desktop environment for the most part is a
real pleasure. But 'hibernate' is hopeless and 'suspend' also
has significant problems. New rules added per wiki.debian.org
suggestions do not help. After a cold restart the erratic
'suspend' errors often disappear for a few hours but always come
back. Frequently, upon inexplicably slow resumes from
'suspend', the open applications in a session seem to start
locking up whereupon the only way to get to get everything
working again is a hard power-key shutdown and a cold reboot. <br>
</p>
<p>As an aside, Debian 11 also causes some new problems with an
old Windows program I use under Wine, though I've been able to
resolve these (annoyingly) by copying over the entire .wine
directory from a prior Debian 10 installation. I experience
this issue under both Debian 11 Xfce and Debian 11 KDE
environments.<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/12/22 08:35, Ted Pomeroy wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAM7Qav_sBFssxQTO_OS6tO49eLx2hfm6V=O441uS_LSmYx37DA@mail.gmail.com">
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;
charset=UTF-8">
<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">LeRoy &
NMGLugers, 1) I suggest you keep power on overnight. If you
suspend and power fails your ram image of work is lost. You
can try hibernate, but there have been issues with Linux and
hibernate. Hibernate puts the snapshot image of your work on
the hard drive, but unless the resume is set to resume form
the correct location you will have a failure.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">My routine
is to suspend during the day, if I go out or take an hour
off for non-computer work. Over night I switch off after
saving work and closing all apps. Your LXde is fine. I use
Xfce4 or Mate, but the gui desktop is not the issue. I have
found Mate much easier to manage after also finding the
"extras" package for it and loading that. However, that just
gives me a richer gui, did not help with suspend. <br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">I hope this
helps. If not ask more questions. Thank you, Ted P<br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 7:21
AM Wayne <<a href="mailto:Wayne@tradetimer.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">Wayne@tradetimer.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
I have often heard that Linus can have problems with
hibernation. Can you just 'Suspend' the system instead? That
ssem to be less problematical, though even that can be iffy,
depending on the laptop.<br>
<br>
<br>
On 3/11/22 8:02 PM, LeRoy Diener wrote:<br>
> Hi NMGLUG folks,<br>
> <br>
> I'm having an issue recently that I hope I can get help
with.<br>
> It's on my Debian 11 system, updated.<br>
> Recently, I've had problems when I leave the laptop
overnight.<br>
> When I stop, I click on Logout > Suspend, then the
screen goes black and I close the lid. I expect that when I
open the lid in the morning and enter my password, I should
be back where I left off.<br>
> <br>
> When I've done this recently, it works sometimes.<br>
> Other times, it crashes after the batteries run out of
power in the middle of the night.<br>
> Other times, it works, but I see a message in the
morning "None of the screen lock tools ran successfully, the
screen will not be locked. Do you still want to suspend the
system?"<br>
> Other times, it works, but I see a message in the
morning "Authentication is required to hibernate the
system."<br>
> <br>
> I have a setting in Power Manager to hibernate when
inactive for one hour, so that's what I'm focusing on now.<br>
> I found some helpful info in this link <a
href="https://askubuntu.com/questions/543921/authentication-required-before-suspend"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://askubuntu.com/questions/543921/authentication-required-before-suspend</a><br>
> I found the file
/usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.login1.policy<br>
> In that file, I found this segment:<br>
> <action id="org.freedesktop.login1.hibernate"><br>
> <description gettext-domain="systemd">Hibernate
the system</description><br>
> <message gettext-domain="systemd">Authentication
is required to hibernate the system.</message><br>
> <defaults><br>
> <allow_any>auth_admin_keep</allow_any><br>
>
<allow_inactive>auth_admin_keep</allow_inactive><br>
> <allow_active>yes</allow_active><br>
> </defaults><br>
> </action><br>
> <br>
> Other info:<br>
> I usually have the laptop plugged into an external
monitor, and I usually have the power strip (which powers
the external monitor and laptop) turned off overnight.<br>
> <br>
> Any ideas?<br>
> <br>
> Thanks in advance.<br>
> LeRoy<br>
> <br>
> -- <br>
> <br>
> There is something glorious birthing within all of us.
(New for 2021)<br>
> I am the Love of God, no matter what.<br>
> BSA<br>
> LeRoy Diener<br>
> 213-LEROYIZ<br>
> 213-537-6949<br>
> <a href="https://leroydiener.com" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://leroydiener.com</a>
<<a href="https://leroydiener.com/" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://leroydiener.com/</a>><br>
> <br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> nmglug mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:nmglug@lists.nmglug.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">nmglug@lists.nmglug.org</a><br>
> <a
href="http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org</a><br>
> <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
nmglug mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:nmglug@lists.nmglug.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">nmglug@lists.nmglug.org</a><br>
<a
href="http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org</a><br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br>
<fieldset class="moz-mime-attachment-header"></fieldset>
<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">_______________________________________________
nmglug mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:nmglug@lists.nmglug.org" moz-do-not-send="true">nmglug@lists.nmglug.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org" moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org</a>
</pre>
</blockquote>
<br>
<fieldset class="moz-mime-attachment-header"></fieldset>
<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">_______________________________________________
nmglug mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nmglug@lists.nmglug.org">nmglug@lists.nmglug.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org">http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org</a>
</pre>
</blockquote>
<div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
<img src="cid:part1.nCE0QSnM.GrOkJRoO@cybermesa.com" border="0"></div>
</body>
</html>