[nmglug] Clusters, Netbooting, BOINC, yadda-yadda-yadda

[Tim Emerick]

Hey Mars,

I got one of those Kill-A-Watt devices and plugged in my Wall-O-PC's into it.

I don't know how to read the info so I thought I would pass it on to you and you could tell me how much this thing is costing me on my electric bill.

I have 15 PCs running BOINC full-throttle, 1 24 port switch, 1 17" LCD monitor all hooked up to a 20 amp circuit.

Kill-A-Watt reads 12.61amps, 1150 Watts, .08 KWH.

What does it all mean???

Tim

(I thought the group could benefit from your response, hense the personal reply on the group list.)

----- Original Message ----
From: J. Marsden DeLapp <jmdelapp at delapp.com>
To: NMGLUG.org mailing list <nmglug at nmglug.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 1:47:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nmglug] Clusters, Netbooting, BOINC, yadda-yadda-yadda


Tim Emerick wrote:
> My mom passed away some years ago from cancer so when I heard about
 World Community Grid and their Help Cure Cancer project I felt like I
 needed to jump on board.  I've been a long time SETI at Home and BOINC
 cruncher so this was a no brainer for me.  A little memorium to her if you
 will.
> 
> I collected a bunch of unused PC's from some business acquaintences
 and have cobbled together 12 working PC's that are humming in a stack in
 the corner of my garage. I have installed Ubuntu/Gutsy-Server and
 BOINC and they are managed remotely via ssh and BoincView
 (http://boincview.amanheis.de/) therefore they do not have a
 keyboard/mouse/monitor hooked up to them.  They are basically the MB, PSU, and HD.
> 
> As I accumulate more machines I am starting to think about things
 like my electric bill, the space consumed in the garage, cooling, and
 accessibility of each machine.  Therefore I would like to ask some
 questions and hopefully some of you can give me some feedback, links, pointers,
 or ideas so I can keep going with this project that has become
 personal to me.
> 
> Anybody know how much power a MB/HD/PSU would consume in a general
 sense?  I installed a 20amp circuit in the garage just for this project
 and I sometimes wonder if it's overloaded with the 12 machines running
 on it.
> 
> My ice-box of a garage this winter is a great cool room for these
 machines but I'm wondering what do to about the summer.  I've just
 insulated and drywalled my garage so this summer should not be as hot as it
 usually is but I think the machines will still need some sort of cooling.
> 
> To conserve power and/or space I've stumbled on some options that I
 could implement alone or in combination.  Does any of them make sense?
> 
>  - turn the machines into a diskless cluster and BOINC would then see
 my cluster as a single multi-processor machine. (Is the power savings
 all that great without the HD?)
>  - netboot and use a single networked drive to store each machines
 BOINC files (Same HD power question as above only each machine is
 standalone instead of cluster member)
>  - Multiple motherboards share a single power supply. (Does the PSU
 draw the power or do the components draw the power?)
>  - Eschew the cases for a wall mounted or stacked open air
 motherboard type setup. (Save space.  See the Ammonite link below)
> 
> Really, if I had the resources this Ammonite setup looks really
 really cool.  http://jessen.ch/ammonite/
> 
> Anyway, I welcome any comments and thanks in advance.

Interesting project.

I plugged in an external hard drive and measured it at about 10 watts,
 19 VA, and 0.15 Amps, using a Kill-A-Watt meter. 
This is a relatively new 500 GB IDE drive. I suspect older drives may
 consume more power.

Typical bare bones systems I have measured at about 100 Watts or 1.5
 Amps, excluding monitors. So you should be about to 
run about 10 systems per 20 Amp circuit. You should not load a 20 Amp
 circuit over 16 Amps. The 100 Watt number may be a 
bit high for just a motherboard and one hard drive.

Circuits should be sized or loaded based on Amps. The watts are what
 produces the heating and runs up your electric bill.

Just for a ball park number, 12 machines x 100 Watts x 24 Hr/day x 365
 days/year x $0.09/kWH = $950 per year.

Getting rid of the hard drives would save power and would be a good
 thing to do.

Power supplies consume (waste) some power in converting 120 V AC into
 the DC power needed for the computer components. 
They are typically most efficient when they are loaded near their
 capacity. Multiple motherboards sharing a single power 
supply sounds like a good idea.

Air flow is critical for cooling. You also need to consider EMI/RFI
 shielding which a case provides. An open air setup 
is probably not a good idea.

I recommend buying your Kill-A-Watt meter from the New Mexico Solar
 Energy Association.
http://nmsea.org/Retail/Kill_a_Watt/index.php
They have the best price (best for the New Mexico Solar Energy
 Association). And all profits go towards a good cause.

Mars

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