[nmglug] Meeting and installs,

Ted Pomeroy ted.pome at gmail.com
Thu Mar 29 10:42:24 PDT 2012

Thanks, Brian, Yes, I could have chosen Gnome 2 in Debian, I am have
not been thorough enough in reading the catalog of available choices.
However, I didn't like Gnome 3, so I decided to try KDE again. I like
the preservation of user choice. Has anybody read Cory Doctorow,
"What's Inside the Box?" which addresses this issue?
The wifi issues may be related to the rather unique Laclinux hardware.
I have not had time to check the pci slot itself and I have not
reviewed dmesg output for clues about the pci route for wifi.
Thank you, Ted P.

On 3/29/12, BrianO'Keefe <okeefe at cybermesa.com> wrote:
> Doesn't Debian use the Gnome2 GUI? It thought that it did but maybe I'm
> wrong (it happened once and I didn't like it!).
> KDE network management isn't as good as the old Gnome Network-Manager from
> my experience. I always found it way too complex for something Gnome makes
> simple. I wonder why you are having wifi issues at all though? Debian works
> great on a VM for me on this old Toshiba Satellite.
> On 03/28/2012 07:51 PM, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
>> Hello Everyone, I am sorry I will miss the meeting tomorrow, 03-29-12.
>> I had a long install session with help from Mars D. to get a new
>> install of Debian testing with KDE on a laptop configured a few years
>> ago by Laclinux. Many thanks, Mars. I made some errors, despite having
>> clear instructions, but by the end of the day, voila, a graphical
>> system and sound. No built in wireless and my pci card (Atheros
>> chipset) has not worked yet. As this is a switch for me, from Gnome to
>> Kde, I am now going a bit slowly, I did enjoy the effort needed to use
>> command line for the install. I got a little sloppy towards the end,
>> but found vim easy enough to edit all the files I needed and my
>> knowledge of the file tree helped. Missing wifi will make it slow
>> going for a while as I want to add other programs and need to fix
>> koffice. I am back a few kernel nuances (2.6.32-24 from 2.6.32-38) and
>> using ext3 file system, not the ext4 which Ubuntu uses now. Main
>> issues were getting sources.list correct, making a correct
>> /etc/apt/preferences file and making sure to include the xserver-org
>> package to go graphical. Feels good to be using Debian, even if only
>> just a start. BUT, for the less energized, using Ubuntu or Mint may be
>> a good way to go.
>> In that direction I have looked at Kubuntu 11.10, which is the current
>> release showing where the 12.04 LTS release will probably go. It seems
>> okay, and avoids the too unique Ubuntu replacement for Gnome. I still
>> like menus.
>> See you next time, on April 12th.
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