[nmglug] Comcast refuses to send mail to Linux desktop email clients

[Tom Ashcraft]

OK, I *think* that having more or less successfully substituted 
imap.ge.xfinity.com for imap.comcast.net--currently with a certificate 
mis-match warning I don't yet know how to fix--is probably at least 
marginally more desirable than having to go through Xfinity mail website...

Because, going through the website, Comcast/Xfinity has greater 
opportunity to do their social engineering infantilization thing, 
further shape my perceptions, whither my digital self-reliance skillset, 
more fully exploit me as a consumer milk cow and allow government and 
corporations to better trace and predict my physical and economic 
movements should they desire to do so, etc.

But am I wrong, should I continue to use the website until I'm 
completely sure I have the certificate thing properly nailed?

On 12/7/18 4:13 PM, Casey Dentinger wrote:
> I don't find receiving mail to be that bad but getting it successfully
> delivered is a place where the internet is hamstrung by corporations.
>
> On 18-12-07 15:45:26, chochoms at earthlink.net wrote:
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Casey Dentinger <dentinger at regnitned.net>
>>> Sent: Dec 7, 2018 2:46 PM
>>> To: nmglug at lists.nmglug.org
>>> Subject: Re: [nmglug] Comcast refuses to send mail to Linux desktop email clients
>>>
>>> That escalated quickly :)
>>>
>>> Also you don't need imap if you just use mutt locally
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, at 2:43 PM, J Marsden DeLapp wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 10:49:39 -0700
>>>> jason schaefer <js at jasonschaefer.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/1/18 10:47 PM, Tom Ashcraft wrote:
>>>>>> What they can't steal from us most of seem to be willing to give to
>>>>>> them for free. So much for any hope of anonymity or privacy from our
>>>>>> corporate overlords. Might as well let them tatoo a barcode on your
>>>>>> forehead--though that wouldn't be nearly as effective.
>>>>> Its worth pointing out that if you are concerned about these issues
>>>>> you shouldn't be using comcast for email...
>>>> With a simple
>>>> apt install postfix dovecot-imapd
>>>> you can run your own mail server.
>>>>
>>>> Mars
>>>>
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>> I am following this discussion with great amusement.  Maybe you guys know something I don't, but having your own email server or an email client on your desktop (phones of course are too insecure to use for anything important) seems like a lot of un-needed work trying to keep things secure.  I concluded several years ago that I had neither the time nor the inclination (plus I am not expert enough in Linux) to harden my computer against email-carried malware. Also since someone could conceivably get into my computer I don't want them to have access to my email. Consequently I use web mail, (not GOOGLE!), because the ISP can do a lot better job than I at filtering out the malware and protecting against crackers. If I need to send something encrypted or very sensitive I use Protonmail from CERN.
>>
>> Problem solved. Doesn't matter what Comcast or anyone else allows, plus I can check my mail on any computer in the world.
>>
>> If I am wrong, please explain to this Linux neophyte why.
>>
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