[nmglug] Comcast refuses to send mail to Linux desktop email clients

[Alucard]

Hi Tom,

Try using this hostname for imap:
mail.comcast.net

And use this hostname for smtp:
smtp.comcast.net

That should allow you to get a valid SSL cert.

Let me know how that goes. Also, don't setup your own email. Setting up 
a dovecot server is fun, but maintaining it to work with all other email 
providers is a super big drag. Especially when people need to have their 
email flow without a problem.

-- Jared

On 12/7/18 5:02 PM, Tom Ashcraft wrote:
> OK, I *think* that having more or less successfully substituted 
> imap.ge.xfinity.com for imap.comcast.net--currently with a certificate 
> mis-match warning I don't yet know how to fix--is probably at least 
> marginally more desirable than having to go through Xfinity mail 
> website...
>
> Because, going through the website, Comcast/Xfinity has greater 
> opportunity to do their social engineering infantilization thing, 
> further shape my perceptions, whither my digital self-reliance 
> skillset, more fully exploit me as a consumer milk cow and allow 
> government and corporations to better trace and predict my physical 
> and economic movements should they desire to do so, etc.
>
> But am I wrong, should I continue to use the website until I'm 
> completely sure I have the certificate thing properly nailed?
>
> On 12/7/18 4:13 PM, Casey Dentinger wrote:
>> I don't find receiving mail to be that bad but getting it successfully
>> delivered is a place where the internet is hamstrung by corporations.
>>
>> On 18-12-07 15:45:26, chochoms at earthlink.net wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Casey Dentinger <dentinger at regnitned.net>
>>>> Sent: Dec 7, 2018 2:46 PM
>>>> To: nmglug at lists.nmglug.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [nmglug] Comcast refuses to send mail to Linux desktop 
>>>> email clients
>>>>
>>>> That escalated quickly :)
>>>>
>>>> Also you don't need imap if you just use mutt locally
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, at 2:43 PM, J Marsden DeLapp wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 10:49:39 -0700
>>>>> jason schaefer <js at jasonschaefer.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/1/18 10:47 PM, Tom Ashcraft wrote:
>>>>>>> What they can't steal from us most of seem to be willing to give to
>>>>>>> them for free. So much for any hope of anonymity or privacy from 
>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>> corporate overlords. Might as well let them tatoo a barcode on your
>>>>>>> forehead--though that wouldn't be nearly as effective.
>>>>>> Its worth pointing out that if you are concerned about these issues
>>>>>> you shouldn't be using comcast for email...
>>>>> With a simple
>>>>> apt install postfix dovecot-imapd
>>>>> you can run your own mail server.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mars
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> =============================================================
>>>>> J. Marsden DeLapp, PE
>>>>> President
>>> I am following this discussion with great amusement.  Maybe you guys 
>>> know something I don't, but having your own email server or an email 
>>> client on your desktop (phones of course are too insecure to use for 
>>> anything important) seems like a lot of un-needed work trying to 
>>> keep things secure.  I concluded several years ago that I had 
>>> neither the time nor the inclination (plus I am not expert enough in 
>>> Linux) to harden my computer against email-carried malware. Also 
>>> since someone could conceivably get into my computer I don't want 
>>> them to have access to my email. Consequently I use web mail, (not 
>>> GOOGLE!), because the ISP can do a lot better job than I at 
>>> filtering out the malware and protecting against crackers. If I need 
>>> to send something encrypted or very sensitive I use Protonmail from 
>>> CERN.
>>>
>>> Problem solved. Doesn't matter what Comcast or anyone else allows, 
>>> plus I can check my mail on any computer in the world.
>>>
>>> If I am wrong, please explain to this Linux neophyte why.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> DeLapp & Associates, Inc. dba DeLapp Engineering.
>>>>> Providing lighting and power planning, design and analysis services
>>>>> for commercial, industrial and large residential facilities.
>>>>> 1190 Harrison Road Ste 3a
>>>>> Santa Fe NM 87507
>>>>> (505) 983-5557
>>>>> http://DeLapp.com
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