[nmglug] Meeting this week;

Tue May 22 08:56:11 PDT 2018

Hi Brian, I look forward to seeing you. I can wait with you and if the
weather is nice it should be no problem, as I don't drive I cannot
offer a ride, but others might as Early St. is so close by our
meeting.
By the way a Backup is a copy of the files you don't want to lose. So
if you are trying to recover music and miscellany, you had files that
might have been copied to a backup drive and verified safe before
upgrade. You can be bold about this, but one is always warned that a
good backup will save you time in the long run.
A fresh install is always a good way to move forward. It's a new
environment adjusted to the changes in computing and the Internet,
ready to improve the computing experience. By the way I will bring the
release notes from 16.04 as an example of known changes and problems
with a new release.
Thank you, Ted P.

On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Brian O'Keefe <okeefe at cybermesa.com> wrote:
> I look forward to mtg. too Ted. Getting there at 5:30 is no problem but I
> wouldn't get picked up until 7:40 or so, so I'm not sure that will work. If
> it's nice I can wait outside. My wife's thing is on Early street if someone
> could give me a lift there that would be most welcome.
>
> Don't worry about engaging in my fiasco but I have learned a lesson, though
> I don't know how I'll resolve it and getting back to a simpler OS set-up as
> you describe and still have at least the most important apps that I use thru
> Wine or otherwise. And what's this about backups? We don't need no stinking
> backups! (Hah). I know that the rsync was supposed to create a snapshot of
> my system and all in it. I know that you're not dealing with this sort of
> thing but it's good info none the less. It seems that the update not only
> deleted folders it resurrected some back into my OS and they pop up in my
> file browser after I had deleted them! I wonder what went on with that
> update. what a scramble.
>
> Anyway, if I can make it perhaps someone can at least be amused!
>
> I'll try to make it, we'll see.
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> On 05/22/2018 08:16 AM, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
>>
>> Brian, I look forward to meeting you. I arrive at the Baking Co. at
>> about 5pm, meeting officially starts at 5:30. It runs till 7pm when
>> the cafe closes.  Several members adjourn to the Second St. brewery on
>> 2nd St., I usually pass on that and go home. I will not comment on the
>> listing you have of things to reveal and repair.  I choose to make my
>> computing simpler and move on to making things work adequately; then
>> carefully save my own files, yielding to progress the OS and
>> applications. The higher level administrators at our meeting will
>> likely be able to comment and assist you.
>> See you Thursday.
>> Thank you, Ted P.
>>
>> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 10:48 PM, Brian O'Keefe <okeefe at cybermesa.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Ted. What time at Baking Co.? I may try to get there if I can get
>>> a
>>> lift from my wife who has a similar time slot when she's out, 6-7:30. I'm
>>> still dealing with my OS breakdown and have done a few things. Briefly, I
>>> cloned my SSD to a new SSD and then analysed it with TestDisk (comes with
>>> Parted Magic and is a bootable CD). Found a ton of deleted folders that
>>> disappeared when I did the update as per the urging of Update Manager and
>>> toasted my 1.04 OS. TestDisk shows all the file structure in a partition,
>>> my
>>> Linux primary, both existing and the deleted folders that it can find. I
>>> had
>>> lost a major folder I named "Miscellany" (lots of important files over
>>> the
>>> years) and it shows up but has no files. My Music folder also shows up as
>>> not deleted but has no content either. There are hundreds of deleted
>>> files,
>>> of course as they haven't yet been overwritten (or they wouldn't show
>>> up).
>>> So I've lost at least the content of 2 major folders or the folder itself
>>> and apparently many others since I can't run Ubuntu Desktop. Which are
>>> what
>>> I can't begin to know and trying to restore them all so that Ubuntu 16.04
>>> works again would be difficult beyond measure! TestDisk is a pretty
>>> amazing
>>> tool and I could show it off. It gives one the chance to recover those
>>> deleted folders and copy and then restore them. I have so many deleted
>>> files
>>> that I have no idea how I would ever determine which are ones I want/need
>>> to
>>> add to a new 18.04 install. I also want to migrate all of my browser,
>>> email,
>>> etc. from my hacked firefox and thunderbird (had to to get them to work
>>> with
>>> my address books, bookmarks, etc. that the newest versions don't see for
>>> some reason). If I can make it I can bring the Parted Magic disk, my new
>>> USB
>>> 1TB drive that has my cloned SSD on it. The rsync that you helped me with
>>> Mark, is not bootable nor readable with test disk except with Parted
>>> Magic
>>> file browser (no deleted folders or files though as only TestDisk does
>>> that)
>>> and not from my current ldxe desktop file browser. It shows up as a
>>> bootable
>>> image but I get a grub error and a rescue prompt, with which I know not
>>> what
>>> to do. So a long story and I'm not even sure i can manage the meeting but
>>> I'd like to try.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 05/21/2018 06:02 PM, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
>>>>
>>>> NMGLugers, We meet again this week and if we see the same group we can
>>>> follow up on several in-process repairs to software and installation.
>>>> There might be a chance to "tweak" a new install to get the most
>>>> appropriate software for a new user. We can look at upgrade issues for
>>>> Ubuntu, and I have an 18.04 Live/Install usb to show off.  I did some
>>>> reading and at one place it said the Upgrade of older systems is
>>>> applied at the xx.04.1 level, that is in the first numbered release
>>>> after the initial release. July 1st is the time these have appeared in
>>>> the past, give or take some leeway.
>>>> Anybody can write to the list and add comments or issues to address at
>>>> the meeting on Thursday.
>>>> Thank you, Ted P.
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