[nmglug] gsmartcontrol Weirdness

Brian O'Keefe okeefe at cybermesa.com
Tue Apr 23 16:17:18 PDT 2019


Sorry for the stream of emails. An FYI, I installed and ran 
gsmartcontrol which returned no errors and pronounced the SSD healthy.

On 4/23/19 10:15 AM, Alucard wrote:
> Hi Brian,
>
> My 2¢.
>
> If my OS was that hosed, I would just start over. There is a point 
> where the rabbit hole gets too deep to climb out of.
>
> Have you looked at the hard drive to see if that HDD/SSD is failing?
>
> sudo apt install smartmontools
> sudo smartctl --all /dev/sda
>
> If you have never looked at SMART data, then you will want to probably 
> send us/me the output. You will probably be better off doing this from 
> a live USB/CD. If you want a GUI for smartmontools, look at GSmartControl.
>
> If the drive is failing, then fixing the OS is a moot point.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jared
>
> On 4/22/19 9:45 PM, Brian O'Keefe wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Harold. Responses inserted for ease and clarity. Many thanks again
>>
>> On 4/22/19 9:23 PM, Harold Furbiter wrote:
>>> Here is a receipe for boot from an older kernel, and how to set it 
>>> to a default.
>>>
>>> If you have a few Kernels in your system you can set manually what 
>>> Kernel version will start:
>>>
>>> 1.
>>>
>>>     Reboot your PC with pressed Shift button for display GRUB after
>>>     BIOS will start. You will see something like: GRUB start page
>>>     <https://i.stack.imgur.com/sSCzp.png>
>>>
>> /I have booted into older kernels or safe mode this way in the pas. 
>> Now I cannot reboot as all that comes up is the them color screen, no 
>> login, nothing. So I have to do a hard shutdown. I do not get a Grub 
>> menu holding down shift key upon starting. I get a flat theme color 
>> screen. Nothing more/
>>>
>>> 1.
>>>
>>>     Select "Advanced options for Ubuntu" and memorize index of this
>>>     menu line(count starts from 0) On the picture index is 1
>>>
>> /Since I can't access Grub menu I can't do any of the following 
>> except edit grub setup file, which I have not done because of above 
>> issue/
>>>
>>> 2.      Select concrete Kernel <https://i.stack.imgur.com/yYhnM.png>
>>>
>>> 3.
>>>
>>>     Select concrete kernel for boot and also memorize index of this
>>>     menu line(count starts from 0) On the picture index of chosen
>>>     Kernel is 2
>>>
>>> 4.
>>>
>>>     Start system. This action is for one boot on concrete kernel. If
>>>     you want to start from concrete Kernel all time you should do
>>>     next steps:
>>>
>>> 4.1. Open and edit GRUB setup file:
>>>
>>> |sudo nano /etc/default/grub |
>>>
>>> 4.2. Find line GRUB_DEFAULT=...(by default GRUB_DEFAULT=0) and sets 
>>> in quotes menu path to concrete Kernel(Remember menu indexes from 
>>> steps 2 and 3). In my system first index was 1 and second was 2. I 
>>> set in to GRUB_DEFAULT
>>>
>>> |GRUB_DEFAULT="1>2" |
>>>
>>> Save file.
>>>
>>> 4.3. Update GRUB information for apply changes:
>>>
>>> |sudo update-grub |
>>>
>>> 4.4. After reboot you automatically boot on Kernel by chosen menu 
>>> path. An example on my machine 1 -> 2
>>>
>>> 4.5. Check Kernel version after reboot:
>>>
>>> uname -r
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 10:54 PM
>>> *From:* "Brian O'Keefe" <okeefe at cybermesa.com>
>>> *To:* nmglug at lists.nmglug.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: [nmglug] Weirdness
>>>
>>> Thanks again,
>>>
>>> Tried them all to no avail
>>>
>>> On 4/15/19 6:33 PM, Harold Furbiter wrote:
>>>
>>>     You could try:
>>>     sudo /sbin/init 6   (see if it reboots)
>>>
>>> reboots to a blank, colored screen, no log in
>>>
>>>     sudo /sbin/init 1   (see if it give you a prompt)
>>>
>>> Gives me a rescue mode prompt that I cannot use as I can't enter any 
>>> of the options
>>>
>>>     maybe su to root and try init
>>>     sudo su - root  (you need '- root' to insure your path is root's)
>>>     you might try booting from a older or oldest kernel:
>>>
>>> Can't access the grub menu for older kernels. Using shift key during 
>>> boot just gives me the blank colored screen
>>>
>>>     dpkg -l | grep linux-image | awk '{print$2}'
>>>     Gives you a list of bootable kernels available on your system.
>>>     Try booting from the oldest version.
>>>
>>> Is there a way to reboot from a terminal with an older kernel as I 
>>> cannot access the grub menu. this is a recent issue, within the last 
>>> couple of weeks.
>>>
>>>     Cheers,
>>>     *Sent:* Saturday, April 13, 2019 at 8:32 AM
>>>     *From:* "Harold Furbiter" <wwcorigan at mail.com>
>>>     *To:* nmglug at lists.nmglug.org
>>>     *Subject:* Re: [nmglug] Weirdness
>>>     Then you have a corrupt kernel. On boot try booting to an older
>>>     kernel.
>>>     https://askubuntu.com/questions/82140/how-can-i-boot-with-an-older-kernel-version
>>>     *Sent:* Friday, April 12, 2019 at 6:15 PM
>>>     *From:* "Brian O'Keefe" <okeefe at cybermesa.com>
>>>     *To:* nmglug at lists.nmglug.org
>>>     *Subject:* Re: [nmglug] Weirdness
>>>
>>>     Thanks for the input Harold,
>>>
>>>     Same result, just hangs on the splash screen. Can't logout, esc.
>>>     key does nothing, can't switch to a console. Just have to do a
>>>     hard shutdown.
>>>
>>>     On 4/11/19 8:59 PM, Harold Furbiter wrote:
>>>
>>>         Out of curiousity have you tried init 0 ?
>>>         *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 11:26 AM
>>>         *From:* "Brian O'Keefe" <okeefe at cybermesa.com>
>>>         *To:* "NMGLUG.org mailing list" <nmglug at nmglug.org>
>>>         *Subject:* [nmglug] Weirdness
>>>
>>>         Hi All,
>>>
>>>         Since I may not make meeting (niece visiting and Thurs. is
>>>         her last day) I'm putting my issue out for comment and
>>>         hopefully answers. As many of you know I used to updgrade
>>>         instead of clean installs and did that since Ubuntu 6.04. I
>>>         had also added many apps from third parties and also
>>>         modified many, many conf files to keep things working. I had
>>>         a meltdown and lost much of my data but following a partial
>>>         recovery, thanks to a certain group member, I installed a
>>>         clean version of 18.04 onto a new 1TB SSD. I have ot
>>>         tinkered at all with 3rd party software nor modified any
>>>         conf files or been a bad boy in any way!
>>>
>>>         My issue ids that I cannot shut down my box in anyway other
>>>         than a hard shutdown. I also cannot restart it. I have tried
>>>         the GUI option as well as switching to text mode and using
>>>         "sudo shutdown now" or "sudo restart now". In those cases I
>>>         get the splash screen with the "traveling lights" and Unutu
>>>         but it hangs there. The traveling dots hang on the first dot
>>>         of the splash screen and nothing happens. I had hoped that
>>>         text mode would give give me an indication of the issues but
>>>         I can't stay in that mode for some reason.
>>>
>>>         Thanks for any help.
>>>
>>>         Brian
>>>
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