[nmglug] freeBSD

Brian O'Keefe okeefe at cybermesa.com
Tue Jan 1 11:36:47 PST 2019


I think I meant HURD? Anyway, I'll check out Devuan as I've never heard 
(no pun intended) of it. So FSF uses Linux? Hmmm...

Brian

On 1/1/19 8:42 AM, Casey Dentinger wrote:
> I think the FSF installs Trisquel Linux on their work laptops:
>
> https://trisquel.info/
>
> I still run Debian, but am increasingly tempted to give a serious shot
> to a systemd-free OS like Devuan.
>
> On 19-01-01 08:01:40, Brian O'Keefe wrote:
>> Since GNU HERD OS development pretty much stopped (I did install it a few
>> years back and it was marginally usable) then there is really no Stallman
>> approved FOSS OS, is there?
>>
>> On 12/31/18 3:38 PM, Anthony J. Bentley wrote:
>>>> On 12/31/18 2:31 PM, Jonathan Haack wrote:
>>>>> Also ... imho, the BSD license is not FOSS.  Its OS (open source) - and
>>>>> I think post-TIVOization, that open source and free software mean
>>>>> different things now.  Sorry if I trigger anyone ... just my opinion.
>>> That opinion isn't shared by the FSF, who consider permissive licenses
>>> to be "free" by their own definition.
>>>
>>> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.en.html
>>>
>>> Of course, FSF does claim that "free" and "open source" are different.
>>> But they don't claim that permissive licenses, as a type, are not free.
>>>
>>> By your definition, Linux would not be FOSS, since the kernel is
>>> licensed under the GPL version 2, and subject to Tivoization. The FSF
>>> came up with the term "Tivoization" in response to the kernel's license.
>>>
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