[nmglug] HDD > SSD
Brian O'Keefe
okeefe at cybermesa.com
Thu Jun 6 12:37:45 PDT 2019
I can be there at 5:30. As far as a's cloning, it's great the ssd boots.
Is the OS usable after it boots? I've never had a problem booting from a
usb connected HDD. I must be misunderstanding you a, but did you let the
cloning run until the led stop blinking? You definitely don't want to
stop the process cold because of time constraints. The time sounds about
right to clone. Again, I don't really understand but you would not need
to format the SSD to ext4 since cloning to it would create all the
partitions and other parameters that the old drive has. I've never
formatted the target drive so again, I don't know what the ramifications
of doing so are.
Later this evening
Brian
On 6/6/19 12:23 PM, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
> NMGLUGER s, I will be at the Baking Co. at 5.30. That would give us 90
> minutes for an install. I can be there at 5 if I get a reply that
> somebody is coming that early with the unit that needs some help with
> installation. Ted P.
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 12:09 PM Satsangat Khalsa <satsangat at khalsa.com
> <mailto:satsangat at khalsa.com>> wrote:
>
> What time are we starting this meeting now? Should be earlier than
> usual, right?
>
> Best to all,
> Satsangat
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 11:10 AM ABQLUG <community at abqlug.com
> <mailto:community at abqlug.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi a,
>
> Are you able to boot off the SSD?
>
> Should be a boot option from the BIOS menu. Sometimes it's
> F9-12. Sometimes Del. Depends on the model.
>
> If it's a USB mount, you might have some issues, but worth a
> quick test.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jared
>
> On 6/6/19 11:04 AM, a wrote:
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Here is the latest, erased sdd put ext4, downloaded today for
>> 2 3/4 hours led still flashing closed the download these
>> attachments are all gathered after
>>
>> download close down.
>>
>> still uncertain if there is a mount unmount consideration.
>>
>> Best, a
>>
>> On 6/6/19 7:57 AM, ABQLUG wrote:
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> When I went home I had some more time to look at why the
>>> /boot partition wasn't there. TIL
>>>
>>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/6490/is-a-boot-partition-necessary-anymore
>>>
>>> https://superuser.com/questions/522971/is-a-boot-partition-always-necessary/522998#522998
>>>
>>> TL;DR: Some circumstances require separate partitions for
>>> swap and/or /boot, and even gain performance under certain
>>> circumstances. However there is no technical reason for
>>> a"normal" system to have separate partitions.
>>>
>>> Likely this was the default setup at some point. Sorry I
>>> didn't notice that the first time. Normally I manually setup
>>> the partitions, and have just added the /boot out of a
>>> "legacy" habit.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Jared
>>>
>>> On 6/5/19 10:07 PM, a wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> I was planning to attend the meeting tomorrow if I received
>>>> a supportive response to my various queries this past week,
>>>> Gparted loaded after I rebooted, I used the given option to
>>>> terminate the os load so the followed offered choice which
>>>> I image was used to avert error , I would have tried again
>>>> if I had known if the receiving SSD needed to be mounted or
>>>> unmounted. whether the unallocated file system needed any
>>>> tweeking a few basic things of that sort, I have erased the
>>>> ssd contents, If you will be there to assist and enough
>>>> time to do the load otherwise without assurance of
>>>> assistance I will not make attendance a priority.
>>>> Nevertheless thanks for your persistence in this venture.
>>>>
>>>> Best, a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/5/19 7:18 PM, Brian O'Keefe wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi a
>>>>>
>>>>> I think there's a meeting tomorrow? I know that you live
>>>>> away out and that you may not make the meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>> At this point Jared is pretty right on about getting hands
>>>>> on help. For my last HD up grade I did exactly what Jared
>>>>> pointed out and I installed Ubuntu 18.04 onto the new
>>>>> drive and then just copied data I wanted from the old
>>>>> drive. I did this because my old drive's OS had been
>>>>> upgraded over the years (and cloned to newer drives) since
>>>>> Ubuntu 6.04 and had many configuration file patches, or
>>>>> work-arounds to get it to function. It did until one day
>>>>> when it blew and luckily, with Mark's help, I saved data
>>>>> and was able to preserve everything important with a few
>>>>> exceptions. Had my system not been pretty hosed and I
>>>>> anted the SSD I would have used dd but couldn't. That's a
>>>>> back story but it works just fine. I had to reinstall some
>>>>> apps and futz with my browser and mail client to get all
>>>>> of that data too but it wasn't difficult. It's not as
>>>>> "perfect" as a dd clone where you don't have to do
>>>>> anything but the cloning. It has potential downsides as
>>>>> you have found out, if one doesn't grok what is going on.
>>>>> Since I've never had an error yours is mysterious to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is very weird that you have no boot partition on your
>>>>> HDD. I have a sense that in cancelling the dd op something
>>>>> got snipped out there. This happened with my hosed OS that
>>>>> I refer to above and luckily Mark was able to stop the
>>>>> bleed and rsync'd most of everything onto a spare drive.
>>>>> (I have 4 or 5 drives that I've kept from these dd
>>>>> upgraded drives so I have plenty of storage or salvage,
>>>>> depending on the need). But losing a partition is strange
>>>>> but could be that you did not use a bootable cd or thumb
>>>>> drive. Is that the case? As I wrote I use dd with a live
>>>>> cd and so the HDs aren't involved in anything other than
>>>>> the cloning. You can imagine that a drive, the one in your
>>>>> machine, is trying to run the command to clone itself
>>>>> while it is running processes as it always does. It's a
>>>>> moving source of data that is copying blocks that may
>>>>> include running processes, like GParted for instance.
>>>>>
>>>>> A question that a I think I know the answer to, but did
>>>>> you get the lsblk info after your attempted cloning?
>>>>>
>>>>> So do you have a functional OS on your machine? Can you
>>>>> run apps, etc.? Is your data there? If these are the case
>>>>> then a fix can be made, I'm pretty sure. It will take one
>>>>> of the supreme GLUGGers I believe. BTW, I have found tons
>>>>> of info on support sites as almost every issue has been
>>>>> experienced by someone else at sometime. Here's and
>>>>> example of what a google search of your error brought up:
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/yxks8hww
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry that this happened but I have learned more from my
>>>>> mistakes than anything and one thing I have learned is
>>>>> that almost anything can be fixed and if I can't figure it
>>>>> out the answer is out there and in our cases we have a
>>>>> vast storehouse of brainiacs in out GLUGGer groups and
>>>>> they all have great dispositions and are happy to help!
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for my verbose emails. It's how my mind works.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/5/19 4:02 PM, a wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doesn't look too bad, should be able to come up with a
>>>>>> quick fix, We'll probably need to sleep on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best, a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/3/19 7:08 PM, Brian O'Keefe wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've mentioned before but dd makes this a simple and
>>>>>>> fool-proof method of cloning the old drive to the new
>>>>>>> one. It takes an enclosure for the new drive w/ usb
>>>>>>> connection and that's it. After checking the drive names
>>>>>>> to get the correct info into the command line it is
>>>>>>> simply running something along the following (in case
>>>>>>> your drives show up differently but this is what I did
>>>>>>> upon fellow NMGLUGgers. Special thanks to Eric almost 10
>>>>>>> years ago!!):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=1M conv=notrunc,noerror
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...will copy everything from hard drive sda to sdb (i.e. all
>>>>>>> partitions, swap and all data), a true clone. No need to create
>>>>>>> partitions or format them on the target hard drive as the dd command
>>>>>>> will create them because it is copy of every single block of sda.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now if you where copying a single partition to a new drive yes you
>>>>>>> would have to create the target partition on the new hard drive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=notrunc,noerror
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the command above this would clone partition 1 on drive sda to
>>>>>>> partition 1 on drive sdb. In this case you would not need to format
>>>>>>> the new target partition either as it is again copying every block of
>>>>>>> partition 1 of the source sda1 to the target sdb1.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Eric
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/3/19 6:47 PM, a wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Jason
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the good thought, i do not know who that
>>>>>>>> person, to meet early, could be?. If you will be
>>>>>>>> around Thursday lunch get things rolling, under 300Gb.
>>>>>>>> or wait till later in the week, see how things "shake
>>>>>>>> out", another meeting is okay, the ssd has arrived I
>>>>>>>> have a usb adapter,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/30/19 9:02 PM, jason schaefer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I highly recommend coming to a meeting to get this
>>>>>>>>> done in person. For something like this its good to
>>>>>>>>> get confirmation that someone is willing and able to
>>>>>>>>> help you at the meeting. It would also be good to meet
>>>>>>>>> this person early to allow time for such a migration.
>>>>>>>>> I might be able to be this person next week but my
>>>>>>>>> days are so crazy its hard to say what time I would be
>>>>>>>>> able to get to the meeting.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/30/19 5:42 PM, a wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have ordered a 500G ssd to install my laptop, with my limited knowledge and support devices.(i no need a live disc) My tentative plan follow the Https below transfer to external HDD then reverse
>>>>>>>>>> the process to the ssd?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> IN 1.)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ( SUDO LINE BELOW FROM;https://www.ostechnix.com/backup-entire-linux-system-using-rsync/) USING THERE SITE EXAMPLE FOLLOWING:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> $ sudo rsync -aAXv / --exclude={"/dev/*","/proc/*","/sys/*","/tmp/*","/run/*","/mnt/*","/media/*","/lost+found"} /mnt
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Q.) IS MY DESTINATION CORRECTLY CONFIGURED?. SUBSTITUTING /MNT LAST PART PREVIOUS LINE FOR: /home/a//media/a/6fbdc743-fc0f-46e4-aea3-8160914c34ec/backup_HDD TO GET
>>>>>>>>>> THE COMPOSITE LINE BELOW:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> $ sudo rsync -aAXv / --exclude={"/dev/*","/proc/*","/sys/*","/tmp/*","/run/*","/mnt/*","/media/*","/lost+found"} /home/a//media/a/6fbdc743-fc0f-46e4-aea3-8160914c34ec/backup_HDD
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> BEST.a
>>>>>>>>>>
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