[nmglug] HDD > SSD

Thu Jun 6 11:23:04 PDT 2019

NMGLUGER s, I will be at the Baking Co. at 5.30. That would give us 90
minutes for an install. I can be there at 5 if I get a reply that somebody
is coming that early with the unit that needs some help with installation.
Ted P.

On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 12:09 PM Satsangat Khalsa <satsangat at khalsa.com> wrote:

> What time are we starting this meeting now? Should be earlier than usual,
> right?
>
> Best to all,
> Satsangat
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 11:10 AM ABQLUG <community at abqlug.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi a,
>>
>> Are you able to boot off the SSD?
>>
>> Should be a boot option from the BIOS menu. Sometimes it's F9-12.
>> Sometimes Del. Depends on the model.
>>
>> If it's a USB mount, you might have some issues, but worth a quick test.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jared
>>
>> On 6/6/19 11:04 AM, a wrote:
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Here is the latest, erased sdd put ext4, downloaded today for 2 3/4 hours
>> led still flashing closed the download these attachments are all gathered
>> after
>>
>> download close down.
>>
>> still uncertain if there is a mount unmount consideration.
>>
>> Best, a
>> On 6/6/19 7:57 AM, ABQLUG wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> When I went home I had some more time to look at why the /boot partition
>> wasn't there. TIL
>>
>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/6490/is-a-boot-partition-necessary-anymore
>>
>>
>> https://superuser.com/questions/522971/is-a-boot-partition-always-necessary/522998#522998
>>
>> TL;DR: Some circumstances require separate partitions for swap and/or
>> /boot, and even gain performance under certain circumstances. However there
>> is no technical reason for a"normal" system to have separate partitions.
>>
>> Likely this was the default setup at some point. Sorry I didn't notice
>> that the first time. Normally I manually setup the partitions, and have
>> just added the /boot out of a "legacy" habit.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jared
>>
>> On 6/5/19 10:07 PM, a wrote:
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> I was planning to attend the meeting tomorrow if I received a supportive
>> response to my various queries this past week, Gparted loaded after I
>> rebooted, I used the given option to terminate the os load so the followed
>> offered choice which I image was used to avert error , I would have tried
>> again if I had known if the receiving SSD needed to be mounted or
>> unmounted. whether the unallocated file system needed any tweeking a few
>> basic things of that sort, I have erased the ssd contents, If you will be
>> there to assist and enough time to do the load otherwise without assurance
>> of assistance I will not make attendance a priority. Nevertheless thanks
>> for your persistence in this venture.
>>
>> Best, a
>>
>>
>> On 6/5/19 7:18 PM, Brian O'Keefe wrote:
>>
>> Hi a
>>
>> I think there's a meeting tomorrow? I know that you live away out and
>> that you may not make the meeting.
>>
>> At this point Jared is pretty right on about getting hands on help. For
>> my last HD up grade I did exactly what Jared pointed out and I installed
>> Ubuntu 18.04 onto the new drive and then just copied data I wanted from the
>> old drive. I did this because my old drive's OS had been upgraded over the
>> years (and cloned to newer drives) since Ubuntu 6.04 and had many
>> configuration file patches, or work-arounds to get it to function. It did
>> until one day when it blew and luckily, with Mark's help, I saved data and
>> was able to preserve everything important with a few exceptions. Had my
>> system not been pretty hosed and I anted the SSD I would have used dd but
>> couldn't. That's a back story but it works just fine. I had to reinstall
>> some apps and futz with my browser and mail client to get all of that data
>> too but it wasn't difficult. It's not as "perfect" as a dd clone where you
>> don't have to do anything but the cloning. It has potential downsides as
>> you have found out, if one doesn't grok what is going on. Since I've never
>> had an error yours is mysterious to me.
>>
>> It is very weird that you have no boot partition on your HDD. I have a
>> sense that in cancelling the dd op something got snipped out there. This
>> happened with my hosed OS that I refer to above and luckily Mark was able
>> to stop the bleed and rsync'd most of everything onto a spare drive. (I
>> have 4 or 5 drives that I've kept from these dd upgraded drives so I have
>> plenty of storage or salvage, depending on the need). But losing a
>> partition is strange but could be that you did not use a bootable cd or
>> thumb drive. Is that the case? As I wrote I use dd with a live cd and so
>> the HDs aren't involved in anything other than the cloning. You can imagine
>> that a drive, the one in your machine, is trying to run the command to
>> clone itself while it is running processes as it always does. It's a moving
>> source of data that is copying blocks that may include running processes,
>> like GParted for instance.
>>
>> A question that a I think I know the answer to, but did you get the lsblk
>> info after your attempted cloning?
>>
>> So do you have a functional OS on your machine? Can you run apps, etc.?
>> Is your data there? If these are the case then a fix can be made, I'm
>> pretty sure. It will take one of the supreme GLUGGers I believe. BTW, I
>> have found tons of info on support sites as almost every issue has been
>> experienced by someone else at sometime. Here's and example of what a
>> google search of your error brought up:  http://tinyurl.com/yxks8hww
>>
>> Sorry that this happened but I have learned more from my mistakes than
>> anything and one thing I have learned is that almost anything can be fixed
>> and if I can't figure it out the answer is out there and in our cases we
>> have a vast storehouse of brainiacs in out GLUGGer groups and they all have
>> great dispositions and are happy to help!
>>
>> Sorry for my verbose emails. It's how my mind works.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>
>> On 6/5/19 4:02 PM, a wrote:
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> Doesn't look too bad, should be able to come up with a quick fix, We'll
>> probably need to sleep on it.
>>
>> Best, a
>> On 6/3/19 7:08 PM, Brian O'Keefe wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I've mentioned before but dd makes this a simple and fool-proof method of
>> cloning the old drive to the new one. It takes an enclosure for the new
>> drive w/ usb connection and that's it. After checking the drive names to
>> get the correct info into the command line it is simply running something
>> along the following (in case your drives show up differently but this is
>> what I did upon fellow NMGLUGgers. Special thanks to Eric almost 10 years
>> ago!!):
>>
>> dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=1M conv=notrunc,noerror
>>
>>
>> ...will copy everything from hard drive sda to sdb  (i.e. all
>> partitions, swap and all data), a true clone.  No need to create
>> partitions or format them on the target hard drive as the dd command
>> will create them because it is copy of every single block of sda.
>>
>> Now if you where copying a single partition to a new drive yes you
>> would have to create the target partition on the new hard drive.
>>
>> dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=notrunc,noerror
>>
>> In the command above this would clone partition 1 on drive sda to
>> partition 1 on drive sdb.  In this case you would not need to format
>> the new target partition either as it is again copying every block of
>> partition 1 of the source sda1 to the target sdb1.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> - Eric
>>
>>
>> On 6/3/19 6:47 PM, a wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jason
>>
>> Thanks for the good thought, i do not know who that person, to meet
>> early, could  be?. If you will be around Thursday lunch get things rolling,
>> under 300Gb. or wait till later in the week, see how things "shake out",
>> another meeting is okay, the ssd has arrived I have a usb adapter,
>>
>>  Best a
>>
>>
>> On 5/30/19 9:02 PM, jason schaefer wrote:
>>
>> Hi a
>>
>> I highly recommend coming to a meeting to get this done in person. For
>> something like this its good to get confirmation that someone is willing
>> and able to help you at the meeting. It would also be good to meet this
>> person early to allow time for such a migration. I might be able to be this
>> person next week but my days are so crazy its hard to say what time I would
>> be able to get to the meeting.
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>
>> On 5/30/19 5:42 PM, a wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I have ordered a 500G ssd to install my laptop, with my limited knowledge and support devices.(i no need a live disc) My tentative plan follow the Https below transfer to external HDD  then reverse
>> the process to the ssd?
>>
>>
>> IN 1.)
>>
>> ( SUDO LINE BELOW FROM; https://www.ostechnix.com/backup-entire-linux-system-using-rsync/) USING THERE SITE EXAMPLE FOLLOWING:
>>
>>  $ sudo rsync -aAXv / --exclude={"/dev/*","/proc/*","/sys/*","/tmp/*","/run/*","/mnt/*","/media/*","/lost+found"} /mnt
>>
>>
>> Q.) IS MY DESTINATION CORRECTLY CONFIGURED?. SUBSTITUTING /MNT LAST PART PREVIOUS LINE FOR:  /home/a//media/a/6fbdc743-fc0f-46e4-aea3-8160914c34ec/backup_HDD TO GET
>> THE COMPOSITE LINE BELOW:
>>
>> $ sudo rsync -aAXv / --exclude={"/dev/*","/proc/*","/sys/*","/tmp/*","/run/*","/mnt/*","/media/*","/lost+found"} /home/a//media/a/6fbdc743-fc0f-46e4-aea3-8160914c34ec/backup_HDD
>>
>>
>>
>> BEST.a
>>
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