[nmglug] Mistake while emptying trash -- help

Ted Pomeroy ted.pome at gmail.com
Mon Oct 25 08:41:30 PDT 2021


LeRoy, By way of a possible solution, keeping in mind Mark's caution about
never having a blanket 'rm' command in your history, I wonder if you could
add a user to your system and see if that user has the default Move to
Trash and Delete GUI commands working. OR: re-install your desktop
application, which is lxde-desktop as I recall, to see if the missing
pieces are restored. As your original error was done as User, not Root, you
may still have all the necessary parts available or in the repository for
your desktop environment. The old, tried and true resolution is 1)Backup
your files; 2)Fresh install of latest version of your OS. Don't back up
.local settings as these may contain the problem. In fact, except for the
".browser-of-choice" settings and your address book most settings for the
desktop and other applications may not be compatible with an Upgraded
system.
So, do a backup and then decide how much of a repair you want to try. Also,
you may want to wait to see if others have suggestions or comments on my
comments.
Thank you, Ted P

On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 7:43 PM LeRoy Diener <leroy at choosetherightside.com>
wrote:

> Hi NMGLUG folks,
>
> Thanks again.
> Ted: your ideas make sense.
> Mark: I tried your suggestions. I'll explain better what I wrote on 22
> Oct. Ted explained it well.
>
> When this feature was "working right", when I deleted a file from the
> Desktop folder, the filename disappeared from Desktop and the filename
> appeared in Trash/files and Trash/info. To resonate with Ted, that
> functionality seems to match the mv command with the addition of also
> creating a file in Trash/info, presumably that file having nothing but the
> path which the file was moved from.
> That functionality seems to have stopped now in my OS. When I delete a
> file now, it seems to match the rm command.
>
> I used the find command in several scenarios with some files which I
> deleted, some files I moved, etc. The results matched what I wrote above.
> Using sudo gave the same results. Rebooting gave the same results.
>
> Any ideas about how to regain the original functionality, so that files
> deleted using GUI will be moved to Trash?
> LeRoy
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> On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 9:49 PM Ted Pomeroy <ted.pome at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> LeRoy & NMGLUGers, Is there,  perhaps, a difference between "Delete" and
>> "Move to Trash" in the GUI? "Delete" seems to act like 'rm' in my system.
>> "Move to Trash" acts like 'mv ./someFile.txt ~/.local/share/Trash/files
>> someFile.txt' That is: from any of my directories below my home folder
>> "Move to Trash" moves a file to my ~/.local/share/Trash/files/
>> sub-directory.  However, I am using Xubuntu, but consider that the GUI in
>> most cases operates the same way and obscure the command that is actually
>> executed.  I don't know if this will be helpful.
>> Thank you, Ted P
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 5:39 PM Mark Galassi <mark at galassi.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Make sure you have fully logged out, or maybe even rebooted, since some
>>> processes in your desktop might keep an open file descriptor on a directory
>>> (unlikely but possible), so you want to restart that.
>>>
>>> I don't understand at all what you are saying; it appears form your
>>> words that files both appear and don't appear.  But in any case, the
>>> graphical interface is not the final arbiter of whether files are around or
>>> not.  After your reboot (if you had not yet done that), do a:
>>>
>>> 1. Make a file called junk_special_name.txt with some junk in it.
>>>
>>> 2. Delete it the way you are saying, when you say you cannot then find
>>> it.
>>>
>>> 3. Run "find ~ -name junk_special_name.txt" at the shell and see what
>>> comes up.  You can also try the very unlikely to be relevant "sudo find
>>> /tmp/ -name junk_special_name.txt"
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