[nmglug] freeBSD

[Brian O'Keefe]

Hey Jonathan,

Why on earth did it take 12 hours indeed! Primarily because I started 
with a .vdi on virtualbox and that was useless so then I snagged an .iso 
and installed that. Many attempts to download ports because of network 
errors, which I obviously resolved. I didn't want to be root user but 
have my user account and that was made more difficult by having to get 
X11 working as I also wanted a GUI and had to set up conf files that 
weren't automagically set up. (It is a 20 minute install with no GUI!) I 
had to append several of them, adding glarb from my google searches to 
them and also using my sad intuitive abilities to determine where these 
files were or if they needed to be created. Yes and yes. I'm using MATE 
primarily because of the modifications and additions, again, to files to 
get Gnome3, according to the wiki (not ready for 11 apparently from the 
messages on the forums. I'd like to know how you installed it) or KDE, 
which I don't care for. I also added the guest additions which are not 
installed as they are for any other guest OS.

I only do this to play with a UNIX OS and to learn from that. Linux is 
not UNIX, as you know, so I'm interested to expand my knowledge base.

I have installed and played with Slackware and tried Gentoo but it is 
not easy (Gentoo).

My FOSS ? is to get a sense of it. I'm all FOSS as much as possible but 
veer from time to time for ease of use. Like, is there a FOSS version of 
googleearth? No. and I used GE to create maps that I needed for my 
defense in a felony case against me from Standing Rock. Blew the 
prosecution away as the maps completely contradicted the affidavits of 
the "witnesses" and police. I would have had a very difficult time doing 
that work otherwise.

So power to FOSS! But when push comes to shove and there's no real 
alternative....well?

On 12/31/18 2:31 PM, Jonathan Haack wrote:
> Brian,
>
> Why on earth did it take 12 hours?  I have freeBSD 12 (recently
> upgraded) running on a 2GB Core 2 Duo and it took maybe 30 minutes to
> install freeBSD on it (10 and 11).
>
> I am also curious ... have you thrown a GUI on it?  I got GNOME3 on my
> instance, but I saw that they finally upgraded to a respectable version
> of KDE (not my thing)._[Update - I read closer, you used MATE, but spelled it Mate so I 
> missed it.] _
> Lastly ... what are you doing with this?  And why freeBSD instead of
> Slackware or Gentoo?  Is it just preference or are there technical reasons.
>
> Also ... imho, the BSD license is not FOSS.  Its OS (open source) - and
> I think post-TIVOization, that open source and free software mean
> different things now.  Sorry if I trigger anyone ... just my opinion.
> Free to use to anyone without restriction is different than building a
> set of compacts around freedom that guide something's use.
>
> All the best - feel free to email me atjonathan at jonathanhaack.com  ...
> but I included the list at first since GLUG is this Thursday ... and I
> still think freeBSD is cool.
>
> Jonathan
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