[nmglug] HDD > SSD

a a at kaluta.us
Thu Jun 6 10:04:54 PDT 2019


Hi all

Here is the latest, erased sdd put ext4, downloaded today for 2 3/4 
hours led still flashing closed the download these attachments are all 
gathered after

download close down.

still uncertain if there is a mount unmount consideration.

Best, a

On 6/6/19 7:57 AM, ABQLUG wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> When I went home I had some more time to look at why the /boot 
> partition wasn't there. TIL
>
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/6490/is-a-boot-partition-necessary-anymore
>
> https://superuser.com/questions/522971/is-a-boot-partition-always-necessary/522998#522998
>
> TL;DR: Some circumstances require separate partitions for swap and/or 
> /boot, and even gain performance under certain circumstances. However 
> there is no technical reason for a"normal" system to have separate 
> partitions.
>
> Likely this was the default setup at some point. Sorry I didn't notice 
> that the first time. Normally I manually setup the partitions, and 
> have just added the /boot out of a "legacy" habit.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jared
>
> On 6/5/19 10:07 PM, a wrote:
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> I was planning to attend the meeting tomorrow if I received a 
>> supportive response to my various queries this past week, Gparted 
>> loaded after I rebooted, I used the given option to terminate the os 
>> load so the followed offered choice which I image was used to avert 
>> error , I would have tried again if I had known if the receiving SSD 
>> needed to be mounted or unmounted. whether the unallocated file 
>> system needed any tweeking a few basic things of that sort, I have 
>> erased the ssd contents, If you will be there to assist and enough 
>> time to do the load otherwise without assurance of assistance I will 
>> not make attendance a priority. Nevertheless thanks for your 
>> persistence in this venture.
>>
>> Best, a
>>
>>
>> On 6/5/19 7:18 PM, Brian O'Keefe wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi a
>>>
>>> I think there's a meeting tomorrow? I know that you live away out 
>>> and that you may not make the meeting.
>>>
>>> At this point Jared is pretty right on about getting hands on help. 
>>> For my last HD up grade I did exactly what Jared pointed out and I 
>>> installed Ubuntu 18.04 onto the new drive and then just copied data 
>>> I wanted from the old drive. I did this because my old drive's OS 
>>> had been upgraded over the years (and cloned to newer drives) since 
>>> Ubuntu 6.04 and had many configuration file patches, or work-arounds 
>>> to get it to function. It did until one day when it blew and 
>>> luckily, with Mark's help, I saved data and was able to preserve 
>>> everything important with a few exceptions. Had my system not been 
>>> pretty hosed and I anted the SSD I would have used dd but couldn't. 
>>> That's a back story but it works just fine. I had to reinstall some 
>>> apps and futz with my browser and mail client to get all of that 
>>> data too but it wasn't difficult. It's not as "perfect" as a dd 
>>> clone where you don't have to do anything but the cloning. It has 
>>> potential downsides as you have found out, if one doesn't grok what 
>>> is going on. Since I've never had an error yours is mysterious to me.
>>>
>>> It is very weird that you have no boot partition on your HDD. I have 
>>> a sense that in cancelling the dd op something got snipped out 
>>> there. This happened with my hosed OS that I refer to above and 
>>> luckily Mark was able to stop the bleed and rsync'd most of 
>>> everything onto a spare drive. (I have 4 or 5 drives that I've kept 
>>> from these dd upgraded drives so I have plenty of storage or 
>>> salvage, depending on the need). But losing a partition is strange 
>>> but could be that you did not use a bootable cd or thumb drive. Is 
>>> that the case? As I wrote I use dd with a live cd and so the HDs 
>>> aren't involved in anything other than the cloning. You can imagine 
>>> that a drive, the one in your machine, is trying to run the command 
>>> to clone itself while it is running processes as it always does. 
>>> It's a moving source of data that is copying blocks that may include 
>>> running processes, like GParted for instance.
>>>
>>> A question that a I think I know the answer to, but did you get the 
>>> lsblk info after your attempted cloning?
>>>
>>> So do you have a functional OS on your machine? Can you run apps, 
>>> etc.? Is your data there? If these are the case then a fix can be 
>>> made, I'm pretty sure. It will take one of the supreme GLUGGers I 
>>> believe. BTW, I have found tons of info on support sites as almost 
>>> every issue has been experienced by someone else at sometime. Here's 
>>> and example of what a google search of your error brought up: 
>>> http://tinyurl.com/yxks8hww
>>>
>>> Sorry that this happened but I have learned more from my mistakes 
>>> than anything and one thing I have learned is that almost anything 
>>> can be fixed and if I can't figure it out the answer is out there 
>>> and in our cases we have a vast storehouse of brainiacs in out 
>>> GLUGGer groups and they all have great dispositions and are happy to 
>>> help!
>>>
>>> Sorry for my verbose emails. It's how my mind works.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/5/19 4:02 PM, a wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't look too bad, should be able to come up with a quick fix, 
>>>> We'll  probably need to sleep on it.
>>>>
>>>> Best, a
>>>>
>>>> On 6/3/19 7:08 PM, Brian O'Keefe wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've mentioned before but dd makes this a simple and fool-proof 
>>>>> method of cloning the old drive to the new one. It takes an 
>>>>> enclosure for the new drive w/ usb connection and that's it. After 
>>>>> checking the drive names to get the correct info into the command 
>>>>> line it is simply running something along the following (in case 
>>>>> your drives show up differently but this is what I did upon fellow 
>>>>> NMGLUGgers. Special thanks to Eric almost 10 years ago!!):
>>>>>
>>>>> dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=1M conv=notrunc,noerror
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ...will copy everything from hard drive sda to sdb  (i.e. all
>>>>> partitions, swap and all data), a true clone.  No need to create
>>>>> partitions or format them on the target hard drive as the dd command
>>>>> will create them because it is copy of every single block of sda.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now if you where copying a single partition to a new drive yes you
>>>>> would have to create the target partition on the new hard drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=notrunc,noerror
>>>>>
>>>>> In the command above this would clone partition 1 on drive sda to
>>>>> partition 1 on drive sdb.  In this case you would not need to format
>>>>> the new target partition either as it is again copying every block of
>>>>> partition 1 of the source sda1 to the target sdb1.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Eric
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/3/19 6:47 PM, a wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Jason
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the good thought, i do not know who that person, to 
>>>>>> meet early, could  be?. If you will be around Thursday lunch get 
>>>>>> things rolling, under 300Gb. or wait till later in the week, see 
>>>>>> how things "shake out", another meeting is okay, the ssd has 
>>>>>> arrived I have a usb adapter,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Best a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/30/19 9:02 PM, jason schaefer wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I highly recommend coming to a meeting to get this done in 
>>>>>>> person. For something like this its good to get confirmation 
>>>>>>> that someone is willing and able to help you at the meeting. It 
>>>>>>> would also be good to meet this person early to allow time for 
>>>>>>> such a migration. I might be able to be this person next week 
>>>>>>> but my days are so crazy its hard to say what time I would be 
>>>>>>> able to get to the meeting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/30/19 5:42 PM, a wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have ordered a 500G ssd to install my laptop, with my limited knowledge and support devices.(i no need a live disc) My tentative plan follow the Https below transfer to external HDD  then reverse
>>>>>>>> the process to the ssd?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IN 1.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ( SUDO LINE BELOW FROM;https://www.ostechnix.com/backup-entire-linux-system-using-rsync/) USING THERE SITE EXAMPLE FOLLOWING:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   $ sudo rsync -aAXv / --exclude={"/dev/*","/proc/*","/sys/*","/tmp/*","/run/*","/mnt/*","/media/*","/lost+found"} /mnt
>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Q.) IS MY DESTINATION CORRECTLY CONFIGURED?. SUBSTITUTING /MNT LAST PART PREVIOUS LINE FOR:  /home/a//media/a/6fbdc743-fc0f-46e4-aea3-8160914c34ec/backup_HDD TO GET
>>>>>>>> THE COMPOSITE LINE BELOW:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> $ sudo rsync -aAXv / --exclude={"/dev/*","/proc/*","/sys/*","/tmp/*","/run/*","/mnt/*","/media/*","/lost+found"} /home/a//media/a/6fbdc743-fc0f-46e4-aea3-8160914c34ec/backup_HDD
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BEST.a
>>>>>>>>
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