[nmglug] HDD > SSD

ABQLUG community at abqlug.com
Thu Jun 6 10:34:40 PDT 2019

Hi everyone,

I'm replying directly to the mailing list so that everyone can see what 
I sent to a. So you're on the same page for tonight.
I'm glad to see that you're on the SSD now!

It looks like swap might not work until that partition is fixed.

I would probably leave it as is now. This is what I would do if I were 
given the laptop at this point. Again, I'm being purposely vague so that 
someone at the LUG can help guide you in greater detail. This shouldn't 
take long in person either. Though there are so many ways to skin this 
cat; I'm sure everyone will have a slightly different opinion.

Remove the second (dead) partition. Resize the first partition to use 
all space, save for 4GB. Make a new partition that the remaining 4 GB. 
Make that partition a swap partition. Edit fstab to have the new uuid. 
Reboot to make sure it all works, include testing the swap partition.

Again I would put the old HDD in a static bag. In case you find you need 
it for the future.

Congratulations on getting the SSD to boot!



On 6/6/19 11:19 AM, a wrote:
> Hi
> i am replying from the external SSD, via F12 boot from usb device. 
> there remains the question of the aa74 signature error, and does not 
> show on file manage perhaps fstab issue?
> Best, a
> On 6/6/19 11:09 AM, ABQLUG wrote:
>> Hi a,
>> Are you able to boot off the SSD?
>> Should be a boot option from the BIOS menu. Sometimes it's F9-12. 
>> Sometimes Del. Depends on the model.
>> If it's a USB mount, you might have some issues, but worth a quick test.
>> Regards,
>> Jared
>> On 6/6/19 11:04 AM, a wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>> Here is the latest, erased sdd put ext4, downloaded today for 2 3/4 
>>> hours led still flashing closed the download these attachments are 
>>> all gathered after
>>> download close down.
>>> still uncertain if there is a mount unmount consideration.
>>> Best, a
>>> On 6/6/19 7:57 AM, ABQLUG wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>> When I went home I had some more time to look at why the /boot 
>>>> partition wasn't there. TIL
>>>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/6490/is-a-boot-partition-necessary-anymore
>>>> https://superuser.com/questions/522971/is-a-boot-partition-always-necessary/522998#522998
>>>> TL;DR: Some circumstances require separate partitions for swap 
>>>> and/or /boot, and even gain performance under certain 
>>>> circumstances. However there is no technical reason for a"normal" 
>>>> system to have separate partitions.
>>>> Likely this was the default setup at some point. Sorry I didn't 
>>>> notice that the first time. Normally I manually setup the 
>>>> partitions, and have just added the /boot out of a "legacy" habit.
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Jared
>>>> On 6/5/19 10:07 PM, a wrote:
>>>>> Brian
>>>>> I was planning to attend the meeting tomorrow if I received a 
>>>>> supportive response to my various queries this past week, Gparted 
>>>>> loaded after I rebooted, I used the given option to terminate the 
>>>>> os load so the followed offered choice which I image was used to 
>>>>> avert error , I would have tried again if I had known if the 
>>>>> receiving SSD needed to be mounted or unmounted. whether the 
>>>>> unallocated file system needed any tweeking a few basic things of 
>>>>> that sort, I have erased the ssd contents, If you will be there to 
>>>>> assist and enough time to do the load otherwise without assurance 
>>>>> of assistance I will not make attendance a priority. Nevertheless 
>>>>> thanks for your persistence in this venture.
>>>>> Best, a
>>>>> On 6/5/19 7:18 PM, Brian O'Keefe wrote:
>>>>>> Hi a
>>>>>> I think there's a meeting tomorrow? I know that you live away out 
>>>>>> and that you may not make the meeting.
>>>>>> At this point Jared is pretty right on about getting hands on 
>>>>>> help. For my last HD up grade I did exactly what Jared pointed 
>>>>>> out and I installed Ubuntu 18.04 onto the new drive and then just 
>>>>>> copied data I wanted from the old drive. I did this because my 
>>>>>> old drive's OS had been upgraded over the years (and cloned to 
>>>>>> newer drives) since Ubuntu 6.04 and had many configuration file 
>>>>>> patches, or work-arounds to get it to function. It did until one 
>>>>>> day when it blew and luckily, with Mark's help, I saved data and 
>>>>>> was able to preserve everything important with a few exceptions. 
>>>>>> Had my system not been pretty hosed and I anted the SSD I would 
>>>>>> have used dd but couldn't. That's a back story but it works just 
>>>>>> fine. I had to reinstall some apps and futz with my browser and 
>>>>>> mail client to get all of that data too but it wasn't difficult. 
>>>>>> It's not as "perfect" as a dd clone where you don't have to do 
>>>>>> anything but the cloning. It has potential downsides as you have 
>>>>>> found out, if one doesn't grok what is going on. Since I've never 
>>>>>> had an error yours is mysterious to me.
>>>>>> It is very weird that you have no boot partition on your HDD. I 
>>>>>> have a sense that in cancelling the dd op something got snipped 
>>>>>> out there. This happened with my hosed OS that I refer to above 
>>>>>> and luckily Mark was able to stop the bleed and rsync'd most of 
>>>>>> everything onto a spare drive. (I have 4 or 5 drives that I've 
>>>>>> kept from these dd upgraded drives so I have plenty of storage or 
>>>>>> salvage, depending on the need). But losing a partition is 
>>>>>> strange but could be that you did not use a bootable cd or thumb 
>>>>>> drive. Is that the case? As I wrote I use dd with a live cd and 
>>>>>> so the HDs aren't involved in anything other than the cloning. 
>>>>>> You can imagine that a drive, the one in your machine, is trying 
>>>>>> to run the command to clone itself while it is running processes 
>>>>>> as it always does. It's a moving source of data that is copying 
>>>>>> blocks that may include running processes, like GParted for instance.
>>>>>> A question that a I think I know the answer to, but did you get 
>>>>>> the lsblk info after your attempted cloning?
>>>>>> So do you have a functional OS on your machine? Can you run apps, 
>>>>>> etc.? Is your data there? If these are the case then a fix can be 
>>>>>> made, I'm pretty sure. It will take one of the supreme GLUGGers I 
>>>>>> believe. BTW, I have found tons of info on support sites as 
>>>>>> almost every issue has been experienced by someone else at 
>>>>>> sometime. Here's and example of what a google search of your 
>>>>>> error brought up: http://tinyurl.com/yxks8hww
>>>>>> Sorry that this happened but I have learned more from my mistakes 
>>>>>> than anything and one thing I have learned is that almost 
>>>>>> anything can be fixed and if I can't figure it out the answer is 
>>>>>> out there and in our cases we have a vast storehouse of brainiacs 
>>>>>> in out GLUGGer groups and they all have great dispositions and 
>>>>>> are happy to help!
>>>>>> Sorry for my verbose emails. It's how my mind works.
>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>> On 6/5/19 4:02 PM, a wrote:
>>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>> Doesn't look too bad, should be able to come up with a quick 
>>>>>>> fix, We'll  probably need to sleep on it.
>>>>>>> Best, a
>>>>>>> On 6/3/19 7:08 PM, Brian O'Keefe wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>> I've mentioned before but dd makes this a simple and fool-proof 
>>>>>>>> method of cloning the old drive to the new one. It takes an 
>>>>>>>> enclosure for the new drive w/ usb connection and that's it. 
>>>>>>>> After checking the drive names to get the correct info into the 
>>>>>>>> command line it is simply running something along the following 
>>>>>>>> (in case your drives show up differently but this is what I did 
>>>>>>>> upon fellow NMGLUGgers. Special thanks to Eric almost 10 years 
>>>>>>>> ago!!):
>>>>>>>> dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=1M conv=notrunc,noerror
>>>>>>>> ...will copy everything from hard drive sda to sdb  (i.e. all
>>>>>>>> partitions, swap and all data), a true clone.  No need to create
>>>>>>>> partitions or format them on the target hard drive as the dd command
>>>>>>>> will create them because it is copy of every single block of sda.
>>>>>>>> Now if you where copying a single partition to a new drive yes you
>>>>>>>> would have to create the target partition on the new hard drive.
>>>>>>>> dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=notrunc,noerror
>>>>>>>> In the command above this would clone partition 1 on drive sda to
>>>>>>>> partition 1 on drive sdb.  In this case you would not need to format
>>>>>>>> the new target partition either as it is again copying every block of
>>>>>>>> partition 1 of the source sda1 to the target sdb1.
>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>> - Eric
>>>>>>>> On 6/3/19 6:47 PM, a wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Jason
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the good thought, i do not know who that person, to 
>>>>>>>>> meet early, could  be?. If you will be around Thursday lunch 
>>>>>>>>> get things rolling, under 300Gb. or wait till later in the 
>>>>>>>>> week, see how things "shake out", another meeting is okay, the 
>>>>>>>>> ssd has arrived I have a usb adapter,
>>>>>>>>>  Best a
>>>>>>>>> On 5/30/19 9:02 PM, jason schaefer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi a
>>>>>>>>>> I highly recommend coming to a meeting to get this done in 
>>>>>>>>>> person. For something like this its good to get confirmation 
>>>>>>>>>> that someone is willing and able to help you at the meeting. 
>>>>>>>>>> It would also be good to meet this person early to allow time 
>>>>>>>>>> for such a migration. I might be able to be this person next 
>>>>>>>>>> week but my days are so crazy its hard to say what time I 
>>>>>>>>>> would be able to get to the meeting.
>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/30/19 5:42 PM, a wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>> I have ordered a 500G ssd to install my laptop, with my limited knowledge and support devices.(i no need a live disc) My tentative plan follow the Https below transfer to external HDD  then reverse
>>>>>>>>>>> the process to the ssd?
>>>>>>>>>>> IN 1.)
>>>>>>>>>>> ( SUDO LINE BELOW FROM;https://www.ostechnix.com/backup-entire-linux-system-using-rsync/) USING THERE SITE EXAMPLE FOLLOWING:
>>>>>>>>>>>   $ sudo rsync -aAXv / --exclude={"/dev/*","/proc/*","/sys/*","/tmp/*","/run/*","/mnt/*","/media/*","/lost+found"} /mnt
>>>>>>>>>>> Q.) IS MY DESTINATION CORRECTLY CONFIGURED?. SUBSTITUTING /MNT LAST PART PREVIOUS LINE FOR:  /home/a//media/a/6fbdc743-fc0f-46e4-aea3-8160914c34ec/backup_HDD TO GET
>>>>>>>>>>> $ sudo rsync -aAXv / --exclude={"/dev/*","/proc/*","/sys/*","/tmp/*","/run/*","/mnt/*","/media/*","/lost+found"} /home/a//media/a/6fbdc743-fc0f-46e4-aea3-8160914c34ec/backup_HDD
>>>>>>>>>>> BEST.a
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