[nmglug] HDD > SSD

Thu Jun 6 11:08:56 PDT 2019

What time are we starting this meeting now? Should be earlier than usual,
right?

Best to all,
Satsangat

On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 11:10 AM ABQLUG <community at abqlug.com> wrote:

> Hi a,
>
> Are you able to boot off the SSD?
>
> Should be a boot option from the BIOS menu. Sometimes it's F9-12.
> Sometimes Del. Depends on the model.
>
> If it's a USB mount, you might have some issues, but worth a quick test.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jared
>
> On 6/6/19 11:04 AM, a wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> Here is the latest, erased sdd put ext4, downloaded today for 2 3/4 hours
> led still flashing closed the download these attachments are all gathered
> after
>
> download close down.
>
> still uncertain if there is a mount unmount consideration.
>
> Best, a
> On 6/6/19 7:57 AM, ABQLUG wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> When I went home I had some more time to look at why the /boot partition
> wasn't there. TIL
>
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/6490/is-a-boot-partition-necessary-anymore
>
>
> https://superuser.com/questions/522971/is-a-boot-partition-always-necessary/522998#522998
>
> TL;DR: Some circumstances require separate partitions for swap and/or
> /boot, and even gain performance under certain circumstances. However there
> is no technical reason for a"normal" system to have separate partitions.
>
> Likely this was the default setup at some point. Sorry I didn't notice
> that the first time. Normally I manually setup the partitions, and have
> just added the /boot out of a "legacy" habit.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jared
>
> On 6/5/19 10:07 PM, a wrote:
>
> Brian
>
> I was planning to attend the meeting tomorrow if I received a supportive
> response to my various queries this past week, Gparted loaded after I
> rebooted, I used the given option to terminate the os load so the followed
> offered choice which I image was used to avert error , I would have tried
> again if I had known if the receiving SSD needed to be mounted or
> unmounted. whether the unallocated file system needed any tweeking a few
> basic things of that sort, I have erased the ssd contents, If you will be
> there to assist and enough time to do the load otherwise without assurance
> of assistance I will not make attendance a priority. Nevertheless thanks
> for your persistence in this venture.
>
> Best, a
>
>
> On 6/5/19 7:18 PM, Brian O'Keefe wrote:
>
> Hi a
>
> I think there's a meeting tomorrow? I know that you live away out and that
> you may not make the meeting.
>
> At this point Jared is pretty right on about getting hands on help. For my
> last HD up grade I did exactly what Jared pointed out and I installed
> Ubuntu 18.04 onto the new drive and then just copied data I wanted from the
> old drive. I did this because my old drive's OS had been upgraded over the
> years (and cloned to newer drives) since Ubuntu 6.04 and had many
> configuration file patches, or work-arounds to get it to function. It did
> until one day when it blew and luckily, with Mark's help, I saved data and
> was able to preserve everything important with a few exceptions. Had my
> system not been pretty hosed and I anted the SSD I would have used dd but
> couldn't. That's a back story but it works just fine. I had to reinstall
> some apps and futz with my browser and mail client to get all of that data
> too but it wasn't difficult. It's not as "perfect" as a dd clone where you
> don't have to do anything but the cloning. It has potential downsides as
> you have found out, if one doesn't grok what is going on. Since I've never
> had an error yours is mysterious to me.
>
> It is very weird that you have no boot partition on your HDD. I have a
> sense that in cancelling the dd op something got snipped out there. This
> happened with my hosed OS that I refer to above and luckily Mark was able
> to stop the bleed and rsync'd most of everything onto a spare drive. (I
> have 4 or 5 drives that I've kept from these dd upgraded drives so I have
> plenty of storage or salvage, depending on the need). But losing a
> partition is strange but could be that you did not use a bootable cd or
> thumb drive. Is that the case? As I wrote I use dd with a live cd and so
> the HDs aren't involved in anything other than the cloning. You can imagine
> that a drive, the one in your machine, is trying to run the command to
> clone itself while it is running processes as it always does. It's a moving
> source of data that is copying blocks that may include running processes,
> like GParted for instance.
>
> A question that a I think I know the answer to, but did you get the lsblk
> info after your attempted cloning?
>
> So do you have a functional OS on your machine? Can you run apps, etc.? Is
> your data there? If these are the case then a fix can be made, I'm pretty
> sure. It will take one of the supreme GLUGGers I believe. BTW, I have found
> tons of info on support sites as almost every issue has been experienced by
> someone else at sometime. Here's and example of what a google search of
> your error brought up:  http://tinyurl.com/yxks8hww
>
> Sorry that this happened but I have learned more from my mistakes than
> anything and one thing I have learned is that almost anything can be fixed
> and if I can't figure it out the answer is out there and in our cases we
> have a vast storehouse of brainiacs in out GLUGGer groups and they all have
> great dispositions and are happy to help!
>
> Sorry for my verbose emails. It's how my mind works.
>
> Brian
>
>
> On 6/5/19 4:02 PM, a wrote:
>
> Brian
>
> Doesn't look too bad, should be able to come up with a quick fix, We'll
> probably need to sleep on it.
>
> Best, a
> On 6/3/19 7:08 PM, Brian O'Keefe wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I've mentioned before but dd makes this a simple and fool-proof method of
> cloning the old drive to the new one. It takes an enclosure for the new
> drive w/ usb connection and that's it. After checking the drive names to
> get the correct info into the command line it is simply running something
> along the following (in case your drives show up differently but this is
> what I did upon fellow NMGLUGgers. Special thanks to Eric almost 10 years
> ago!!):
>
> dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=1M conv=notrunc,noerror
>
>
> ...will copy everything from hard drive sda to sdb  (i.e. all
> partitions, swap and all data), a true clone.  No need to create
> partitions or format them on the target hard drive as the dd command
> will create them because it is copy of every single block of sda.
>
> Now if you where copying a single partition to a new drive yes you
> would have to create the target partition on the new hard drive.
>
> dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=notrunc,noerror
>
> In the command above this would clone partition 1 on drive sda to
> partition 1 on drive sdb.  In this case you would not need to format
> the new target partition either as it is again copying every block of
> partition 1 of the source sda1 to the target sdb1.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> - Eric
>
>
> On 6/3/19 6:47 PM, a wrote:
>
> Hi Jason
>
> Thanks for the good thought, i do not know who that person, to meet early,
> could  be?. If you will be around Thursday lunch get things rolling, under
> 300Gb. or wait till later in the week, see how things "shake out", another
> meeting is okay, the ssd has arrived I have a usb adapter,
>
>  Best a
>
>
> On 5/30/19 9:02 PM, jason schaefer wrote:
>
> Hi a
>
> I highly recommend coming to a meeting to get this done in person. For
> something like this its good to get confirmation that someone is willing
> and able to help you at the meeting. It would also be good to meet this
> person early to allow time for such a migration. I might be able to be this
> person next week but my days are so crazy its hard to say what time I would
> be able to get to the meeting.
>
> Jason
>
>
> On 5/30/19 5:42 PM, a wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I have ordered a 500G ssd to install my laptop, with my limited knowledge and support devices.(i no need a live disc) My tentative plan follow the Https below transfer to external HDD  then reverse
> the process to the ssd?
>
>
> IN 1.)
>
> ( SUDO LINE BELOW FROM; https://www.ostechnix.com/backup-entire-linux-system-using-rsync/) USING THERE SITE EXAMPLE FOLLOWING:
>
>  $ sudo rsync -aAXv / --exclude={"/dev/*","/proc/*","/sys/*","/tmp/*","/run/*","/mnt/*","/media/*","/lost+found"} /mnt
>
>
> Q.) IS MY DESTINATION CORRECTLY CONFIGURED?. SUBSTITUTING /MNT LAST PART PREVIOUS LINE FOR:  /home/a//media/a/6fbdc743-fc0f-46e4-aea3-8160914c34ec/backup_HDD TO GET
> THE COMPOSITE LINE BELOW:
>
> $ sudo rsync -aAXv / --exclude={"/dev/*","/proc/*","/sys/*","/tmp/*","/run/*","/mnt/*","/media/*","/lost+found"} /home/a//media/a/6fbdc743-fc0f-46e4-aea3-8160914c34ec/backup_HDD
>
>
>
> BEST.a
>
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