[nmglug] Me too plus 'suspend' problems, etc. Re: Hibernate failure

[Tom Ashcraft]

Debian 11 with Xfce desktop environment for the most part is a real 
pleasure.  But 'hibernate' is hopeless and 'suspend' also has 
significant problems.  New rules added per wiki.debian.org suggestions 
do not help.  After a cold restart the erratic 'suspend' errors often 
disappear for a few hours but always come back.  Frequently, upon 
inexplicably slow resumes from 'suspend', the open applications in a 
session seem to start locking up whereupon the only way to get to get 
everything working again is a hard power-key shutdown and a cold reboot.

As an aside, Debian 11 also causes some new problems with an old Windows 
program I use under Wine, though I've been able to resolve these 
(annoyingly) by copying over the entire .wine directory from a prior 
Debian 10 installation.  I experience this issue under both Debian 11 
Xfce and Debian 11 KDE environments.

On 3/12/22 08:35, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
> LeRoy & NMGLugers, 1) I suggest you keep power on overnight. If you 
> suspend and power fails your ram image of work is lost. You can try 
> hibernate, but there have been issues with Linux and hibernate. 
> Hibernate puts the snapshot image of your work on the hard drive, but 
> unless the resume is set to resume form the correct location you will 
> have a failure.
> My routine is to suspend during the day, if I go out or take an hour 
> off for non-computer work. Over night I switch off after saving work 
> and closing all apps. Your LXde is fine. I use Xfce4 or Mate, but the 
> gui desktop is not the issue. I have found Mate much easier to manage 
> after also finding the "extras" package for it and loading that. 
> However, that just gives me a richer gui, did not help with suspend.
> I hope this helps. If not ask more questions. Thank you, Ted P
>
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 7:21 AM Wayne <Wayne at tradetimer.com> wrote:
>
>
>     I have often heard that Linus can have problems with hibernation.
>     Can you just 'Suspend' the system instead? That ssem to be less
>     problematical, though even that can be iffy, depending on the laptop.
>
>
>     On 3/11/22 8:02 PM, LeRoy Diener wrote:
>     > Hi NMGLUG folks,
>     >
>     > I'm having an issue recently that I hope I can get help with.
>     > It's on my Debian 11 system, updated.
>     > Recently, I've had problems when I leave the laptop overnight.
>     > When I stop, I click on Logout > Suspend, then the screen goes
>     black and I close the lid. I expect that when I open the lid in
>     the morning and enter my password, I should be back where I left off.
>     >
>     > When I've done this recently, it works sometimes.
>     > Other times, it crashes after the batteries run out of power in
>     the middle of the night.
>     > Other times, it works, but I see a message in the morning "None
>     of the screen lock tools ran successfully, the screen will not be
>     locked. Do you still want to suspend the system?"
>     > Other times, it works, but I see a message in the morning
>     "Authentication is required to hibernate the system."
>     >
>     > I have a setting in Power Manager to hibernate when inactive for
>     one hour, so that's what I'm focusing on now.
>     > I found some helpful info in this link
>     https://askubuntu.com/questions/543921/authentication-required-before-suspend
>     > I found the file
>     /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.login1.policy
>     > In that file, I found this segment:
>     > <action id="org.freedesktop.login1.hibernate">
>     > <description gettext-domain="systemd">Hibernate the
>     system</description>
>     > <message gettext-domain="systemd">Authentication is required to
>     hibernate the system.</message>
>     > <defaults>
>     > <allow_any>auth_admin_keep</allow_any>
>     > <allow_inactive>auth_admin_keep</allow_inactive>
>     > <allow_active>yes</allow_active>
>     > </defaults>
>     > </action>
>     >
>     > Other info:
>     > I usually have the laptop plugged into an external monitor, and
>     I usually have the power strip (which powers the external monitor
>     and laptop) turned off overnight.
>     >
>     > Any ideas?
>     >
>     > Thanks in advance.
>     > LeRoy
>     >
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