[nmglug] Me too plus 'suspend' problems, etc. Re: Hibernate failure
Brian O'Keefe
okeefe at cybermesa.com
Sat Mar 12 12:00:58 PST 2022
Ubuntu 20.04, Mate DE. I have this issue but haven't tied it to resuming
from suspend. I'll watch this more closely. The lock-ups come and go and
sometimes I'll notice apps starting to slow and I'll kill them and that
avoids the lock-up issue.
"Frequently, upon inexplicably slow resumes from 'suspend', the open
applications in a session seem to start locking up whereupon the only
way to get to get everything working again is a hard power-key shutdown
and a cold reboot."
On 3/12/22 12:32PM, Tom Ashcraft wrote:
>
> Debian 11 with Xfce desktop environment for the most part is a real
> pleasure. But 'hibernate' is hopeless and 'suspend' also has
> significant problems. New rules added per wiki.debian.org suggestions
> do not help. After a cold restart the erratic 'suspend' errors often
> disappear for a few hours but always come back. Frequently, upon
> inexplicably slow resumes from 'suspend', the open applications in a
> session seem to start locking up whereupon the only way to get to get
> everything working again is a hard power-key shutdown and a cold reboot.
>
> As an aside, Debian 11 also causes some new problems with an old
> Windows program I use under Wine, though I've been able to resolve
> these (annoyingly) by copying over the entire .wine directory from a
> prior Debian 10 installation. I experience this issue under both
> Debian 11 Xfce and Debian 11 KDE environments.
>
> On 3/12/22 08:35, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
>> LeRoy & NMGLugers, 1) I suggest you keep power on overnight. If you
>> suspend and power fails your ram image of work is lost. You can try
>> hibernate, but there have been issues with Linux and hibernate.
>> Hibernate puts the snapshot image of your work on the hard drive, but
>> unless the resume is set to resume form the correct location you will
>> have a failure.
>> My routine is to suspend during the day, if I go out or take an hour
>> off for non-computer work. Over night I switch off after saving work
>> and closing all apps. Your LXde is fine. I use Xfce4 or Mate, but the
>> gui desktop is not the issue. I have found Mate much easier to manage
>> after also finding the "extras" package for it and loading that.
>> However, that just gives me a richer gui, did not help with suspend.
>> I hope this helps. If not ask more questions. Thank you, Ted P
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 7:21 AM Wayne <Wayne at tradetimer.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I have often heard that Linus can have problems with hibernation.
>> Can you just 'Suspend' the system instead? That ssem to be less
>> problematical, though even that can be iffy, depending on the laptop.
>>
>>
>> On 3/11/22 8:02 PM, LeRoy Diener wrote:
>> > Hi NMGLUG folks,
>> >
>> > I'm having an issue recently that I hope I can get help with.
>> > It's on my Debian 11 system, updated.
>> > Recently, I've had problems when I leave the laptop overnight.
>> > When I stop, I click on Logout > Suspend, then the screen goes
>> black and I close the lid. I expect that when I open the lid in
>> the morning and enter my password, I should be back where I left off.
>> >
>> > When I've done this recently, it works sometimes.
>> > Other times, it crashes after the batteries run out of power in
>> the middle of the night.
>> > Other times, it works, but I see a message in the morning "None
>> of the screen lock tools ran successfully, the screen will not be
>> locked. Do you still want to suspend the system?"
>> > Other times, it works, but I see a message in the morning
>> "Authentication is required to hibernate the system."
>> >
>> > I have a setting in Power Manager to hibernate when inactive
>> for one hour, so that's what I'm focusing on now.
>> > I found some helpful info in this link
>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/543921/authentication-required-before-suspend
>> > I found the file
>> /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.login1.policy
>> > In that file, I found this segment:
>> > <action id="org.freedesktop.login1.hibernate">
>> > <description gettext-domain="systemd">Hibernate the
>> system</description>
>> > <message gettext-domain="systemd">Authentication is required to
>> hibernate the system.</message>
>> > <defaults>
>> > <allow_any>auth_admin_keep</allow_any>
>> > <allow_inactive>auth_admin_keep</allow_inactive>
>> > <allow_active>yes</allow_active>
>> > </defaults>
>> > </action>
>> >
>> > Other info:
>> > I usually have the laptop plugged into an external monitor, and
>> I usually have the power strip (which powers the external monitor
>> and laptop) turned off overnight.
>> >
>> > Any ideas?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance.
>> > LeRoy
>> >
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>> > LeRoy Diener
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